Posted on 03/08/2017 2:16:04 PM PST by ForYourChildren
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) warned Wednesday that a House bill to repeal ObamaCare can't pass the Senate without substantial changes.
"The House bill is a beginning. The House bill as drafted, I do not believe, would pass the United States Senate," he said.
Cruz's comments come ahead of a dinner meeting with President Trump on Wednesday night.
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Conservatives can’t vote for a bill that has no way of paying for itself, and the numbers haven’t even been figured at this point.
[Conservatives can’t vote for a bill that has no way of paying for itself, and the numbers haven’t even been figured at this point.]
“We have to pass it before we know if we can pay for it”
Senate Republicans are so utterly useless that they make House Republicans look good.
Over here.
[just doing my job..]
Ceasing from subsidies and involvement altogether is easy to pay for ... and what the Constitution actually allows.
Federal control of healthcare is ILLEGAL!
Give to the states or the individuals.
Also,
Government forcing an individual to buy something is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy a car is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy an iPhone is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy a house is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy healthcare is ILLEGAL!
this bill requires wIRS reporting relative to the subsidy or tax credit people will receive. Anybody who supports this bill as being anything less than a government retention of control over the Health Care system is a fool
It seems all backwards to me. I would start with lining up a pool of insurance companies who will compete for business. Then pass a bill which allows them to sell across state lines. Then repeal obamacare, period. No more mandate, and a time limit to cover pre-existing conditions. Start incremental cuts on Medicaid. Raise age for Medicare.
Cruz isn’t the only one saying this. It’ll take 60 Senate votes. And that ain’t happening.
That is my thought as well. What the White House and Congress is doing is fraud upon those who voted for them.
It seems all backwards to me. I would start with lining up a pool of insurance companies who will compete for business. Then pass a bill which allows them to sell across state lines. Then repeal obamacare, period. No more mandate, and a time limit to cover pre-existing conditions. Start incremental cuts on Medicaid. Raise age for Medicare.
Senate Republicans are so utterly useless that they make House Republicans look good.
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No one is doubting your comment. But being that it’ll take every last Repug in the Senate plus a few Rats - then how is a repeal even possible?
As someone said the legislation process is like making sausage. Lot’s of amendments coming down the pike. We will have to see what the final bill looks like.
Can the Senate draft its own bill, and work out the differences in conference committee, or will that violate the rule that budget-reconciliation bills start in the House?
Cease funding altogether.
In fact, I’d be okay if the House ceased to authorize any and all entitlement funding.
You cannot be “entitled” to something the Constitution doesn’t permit the government to provide for you.
People’s circumstances, no matter how dire, are not amendments.
“then how is a repeal even possible?”
The problem is not the repeal; it’s the replacement. The GOP could repeal by simply refusing to appropriate funds, then let the Democrats either support the replacement, or risk letting it go without replacement.
Alternatively, use the budget reconciliation process. The Republicans complain that they can’t rely on this process because it’s limited only to budget matters. The Dems passed it in the first place with the reconciliation process; now the GOP are acting so scrupulous that they won’t repeal it with the same process used to pass it?
Clinton - Depends on the meaning of the word “is”.
Ryan - Depends on the meaning of the word “repeal”.
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