Trump’s win spurs new push on gun rights

The Hill ^ | 3 Feb 17 | Reid Wilson

[SkyPilot]

President Trump’s election has encouraged gun rights advocates to mount a new legislative push in states across the country.

Legislators in more than a dozen states have introduced bills to allow residents to carry guns in the open, roll back licensing requirements for concealed weapons and limit the number of facilities where guns are prohibited. Measures in several states would allow those with licenses to carry firearms in schools, airports and churches.

Those backing more expansive gun rights largely embrace Trump’s claims — many of which are disputed by federal and local law enforcement statistics — that crime is on the rise and cities are plagued by a wave of what the president called in his inaugural address “American carnage.”

“People, I think, are realizing that they are their first and best line of self defense against a growing population of people who have absolutely no regard for life and law,” Indiana state Rep. Jim Lucas (R) said. “People have just given up with the lawlessness we’ve seen in the past several years.” Lucas is the chief sponsor of several measures that would expand gun rights in Indiana. One of his bills would end the requirement that anyone carrying a weapon obtain a license. Another would prevent state agencies, including universities, from banning firearms from their facilities.

Similar bills are advancing in other states, too.

Measures to permit carrying a firearm without a license, which supporters call “constitutional carry,” have been introduced in six other states: Kansas, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Montana and New Hampshire.

Proposals to allow some people to carry guns in schools and universities have been introduced in 13 other states: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming.

[SkyPilot]

This is going to be an epic battle, because the fascists on the left don't want law abiding citizens to be able to defend themselves from the thugs, the mobs, the criminals, the rapists, the home invaders, and the rest.

I don't know how hard Trump is going to push on this. He has a lot on his plate, as we all know, and has been moving with great speed on many parts of his agenda.

Right now, he has to battle the out of control courts with regard to his completely constitutional travel ban being overturned, he has get the do-nothing GOP Congress to move on repealing Obamacare, and many other items on his agenda.

If you live in a state where your 2nd Ammendment rights are violated every single day (CA, CT, NY, MA, NJ, IL) -- I wonder how much hope we really have. Trump would need to take this on, but he could win.

Here is a related site that discusses the agenda (this one discusses NJ, but it would be the same for many other states):

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http://www.ammoland.com/2016/11/president-trump-means-nj-gun-owners/#axzz4XkOwGpGg

So just what does the future hold for NJ Gun owners under President Trump?

During Donald Trump’s Presidential election campaign, the first policy position paper he released was for how he would protect the Second Amendment. Including the following bullet points on his website:

◦Defend the rights of law-abiding gun owners:◦Military bases and recruiting centers – to have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves

◦National right to carry – should be legal in all 50 states

◦Background checks – we need to fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.

◦Gun and magazine bans – the government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own

Two of these of course are relevant to New Jersey. Concealed Carry, repealing our ridiculous “Assault Weapons” ban and once and for all doing away with our ban on magazines holding more than 15 rounds. He could do this either through Federal preemption laws, essentially banning NJ from passing gun control laws, or through the courts, also banning NJ from passing gun control laws. NJ2AS is currently supporting HR986, which would allow New Jerseyeans to carry in New Jersey with a concealed carry permit from any state in the union. We will be extremely active on the Federal side ensuring that it will be passed. NJ2AS is on full alert to make sure EVERY SINGLE ONE of New Jersey’s unconstitutional gun laws are repealed, overturned, and never allowed to happen again.

[Lurkinanloomin]

[backwoods-engineer]

We the responsible gun owners—we’re winning at the moment. We should press forward (heh) and get all the freedom we can legislated while Trump is in, and in all the states that have Republican governments just now. Trump won’t be in forever— we need big wins at the Federal level, NOW.

[SkyPilot]

All,

If you live in a state where your 2nd Amendment rights are not incredibly violated, you should be very grateful.

Here in NJ, allow me to elucidate on what one has to do to obtain both a Firearms Identification card (FID) and a Permit to Purchase a Handgun:

1. Fill out the FID and PPH forms, answer personal and intrusive questions

2. Pay a fee for both the FID and PPH

3. Fill out the Mental Health Permission form, answer personal questions, and allow law enforcement to search through your private medial history?

4. Put for two "character witnesses" (relatives not allowed) who will be interrogated by law enforcement

5. Go to your police station and drop off the forms, and sign

6. Wait several weeks or months, and the police will give you another electronic form that you have to take to an electronic fingerprint company (costs about $100)

7. Wait more time until you are contacted

8. If approved, pick up your forms at the police station, and be sworn in by an officer

9. Pay another instant background check for your firearms purchase

10. You are banned from purchasing a semi-auto "Assault Weapon" - no collapsible stock, no flash suppressor, no magazines greater than 15 rounds

Now, just imagine, if ONE of those restrictions was placed upon a woman who wanted to slaughter her unborn child through abortion. The liberals would go crazy. The courts would scream "UNDUE BURDEN!"

Help us Trump! You are our only hope.

[Fiddlstix]

[PLMerite]

“Help us Obi-Don!”

[arthurus]

During the 2016 presidential election, Trump incorrectly claimed that crime rates were on the rise, despite a three decade-long stretch of sharp and steadily declining numbers

That may well be so nationally but in a number of big Democrat controlled cities violent crime appears to be welling up pretty impressively. And if you count all the individual violent crimes being perpetrated in the now endemic rioting, then violent crime is getting a lot of reinforcement there, too.

[bravo whiskey]

Forgot Maryland, the freak state, in the list of anti gun state. You need a license to buy a gun and they do not recognize any CHP. Bastards. Unfortunately I have to go there from time to time for family.

[hanamizu]

To make you feel better, let me outline the same process in Missouri.
1. Choose handgun/long gun at dealer.
2. Fill out form 4473; await NICS approval (usually a few minutes).
3. Pay for firearm.
4. Walk out of store with new toy.
If you choose to conceal carry, no permit required (as of Jan. 1)

[SkyPilot]

Thanks.

As I said, be grateful.

National (50 state) fascist and unconstitutional gun laws were a whisker away. If Hillary had one, you would be in the same boat or worse.

So pray for justice. Pray for Trump.

[SkyPilot]

one = won

[Sirius Lee]

Since December, I have felt that, as a Republic, We Are Won.

[hanamizu]

I am grateful and I knew the consequences if Mrs Clinton had won. I don’t know if the 2nd Amendment would have survived a Clinton Supreme Court.

[Blue Collar Christian]

Yeah, but he, and the other founding Fathers didn’t know what they were talking about. If the gun rights advocates get their way, blood will be flowing in the streets all over the country just like here in Arizona.

Oh, yeah./s

[Big Red Badger]

Talk about Hoops...

and baby killers get the Red Carpet.

[Oatka]

Legislators in more than a dozen states have introduced bills to allow residents to carry guns in the open, roll back licensing requirements for concealed weapons and limit the number of facilities where guns are prohibited. Measures in several states would allow those with licenses to carry firearms in schools, airports and churches.

I wish they would also push for CCW holders to be able to buy handguns in any state as well as have direct delivery of firearms bought from an FFL After all, they have been mugged, fingerprinted and passed a State and an FBI background check.

[trebb]

Good news for the People.

When I renewed my CCW in MS, the guy noticed I was retired military and told me that qualified me for Enhanced Carry which usually requires a special class.

It opens a lot of places like schools and churches as potential carry places.

Only places you cannot carry with the enhanced permit is federal buildings (federal law), courtrooms DURING proceedings, police/sheriff/hwy patrol station or detention facility, prison, jail, and places of nuisance (strip clubs and other places where perverts and drugs are likely to be).

[SkyPilot]

Good for you!

During the post-Sandy Hook frenzy, things were pretty bad. New York passed its "SAFE Act" in the middle of the night and without proper legislative procedure. It was a gun grab, pure and simple.

But Bath House Barry whined and complained that he did not pass more unconstitutional gun bans and fascist laws. He even whined about this in the days before he left office. He told the presstitutes that it was his "biggest regret."

Barry did sign a bunch of EOs that were unconstitutional, but that was par for the course.

All I can surmise is that even the Democrats in Washington knew that gun control is a losing issue. They still remember the 1994 "Crime Bill" that caused them to lose the House and the Senate.

I fear that if Trump does not act soon, while he is on a roll, then national gun reform that restores our Constitutional rights (especially for those of us in states like NY, CT, CA, NJ, IL, MA) - then he will have missed the opportunity and gun rights will never be addressed.

[SkyPilot]

and baby killers get the Red Carpet.

They do.

Watch a YouTube video or read an article about "pro-choice" laws and see them scream about any restrictions on abortion causing an "undue burden" - the favorite catch phrase of child murderers.

The courts have justified infanticide by claiming that there is a glittering right to "privacy" written in the "emanations of the penumbra" of the Constitution.

What rubbish.

Gun rights are literally in the Constitution in black and white, and we are stripped of them every day.

[generally]

It should be like this in every state. And a permit to carry or conceal carry in one state should be valid in ALL states.

You should be able to drive across the USA with your gun on you and not have to worry about variations in laws of the states you are passing through.