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To: AC Beach Patrol
Tobin was able to climb the Holy Stairs on her knees

While it is admirable to consider religion at the end of our lives, this story is actually very sad. The purpose of the Scala Sancta in the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church (not the Bible), is to obtain an "indulgence" at the end of the stairs. That is, "a way to reduce the amount of punishment one has to undergo for sins" (e.g. less time in purgatory burning for sins). Note that purgatory is not in the Bible either. So this poor woman believed that by ascending the stairs in her cancer stricken state, she would mitigate her punishment for sins after death, not realizing that Jesus Christ is the only one qualified to do anything for our sins!

1 Peter 3:18 Jesus Christ died for our sins, once, the just for the unjust that He might bring us to God! 1 John 1:9 says that if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us of sins! The Just shall live by faith! Not works. Indulgences were added to Roman Catholicism in order to increase their revenue to build St Peters Basilica. People had to pay the church to ascend the stairs and receive the official church signed indulgence certificate. Many different kinds of indulgences were offered for different acts. Some indulgences, after payment, promised to pull a loved one out of purgatory (fictional Roman Catholic Place between heaven and hell) when purchased. The mantra that accompanied this indulgence was, "when a coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs!"

But if God were truly a good God and a God of love, would he not grant these indulgences free of cost? Out of love and not a financial transaction? Yes! Hence the deception of the Roman Catholic Church. To turn faith in God into a series of stupid works at best, Simony at worst (e.g. paying money, climbing stairs, kissing relics, etc.)

Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
6 posted on 01/03/2017 11:56:18 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

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Thank you for that brave post!
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7 posted on 01/03/2017 11:58:18 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

There’s nothing sad about the story because of an indulgence. And the Bible does indeed talk about Purgatory even if that word itself never shows up.

http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/is-purgatory-in-the-bible

There are Protestants who acknowledge the existence of Purgatory:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2014/11/protestants-who-believe-in-purgatory/

As we so often see at FR, sola scriptura simply fails when it is used. Some Protetsants believe in Purgatory while others don’t but almost all would automatically claim to believe in sola scriptura.

By the way, sola scriptura never appears in scripture - not by name or even the very idea of it.

You could have written a truth here. Instead you chose to essentially post an error and - no matter how unintentional on your part - to mock the poor woman who died. We learned a lot more about you than we did about Purgatory’s supposed non-existence.

http://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-20/news/ls-59038_1_intermediate-state

http://blog.onefaithonline.com/blog/article/the-protestants-purgatory-problem


8 posted on 01/03/2017 1:30:19 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
So this poor woman believed that by ascending the stairs in her cancer stricken state, she would mitigate her punishment for sins after death, not realizing that Jesus Christ is the only one qualified to do anything for our sins!

And here I thought she only did so in order to wave to the Pope from a position where she might be seen.........and it evidently worked out.

It's certainly good to know you had a pathway into her heart to know what her intent was and can be assured that her climb was a total waste of time.........

59 posted on 01/05/2017 5:12:43 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Amen.


66 posted on 01/06/2017 8:01:24 PM PST by Flaming Conservative
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