Posted on 12/27/2016 4:03:38 PM PST by SMGFan
I dunno. This kind of pairing is socially and culturally unsanctioned, but I’d wager that a lot of teenage men in the colonies and later the USA over the last several hundred years had first or early sexual experiences with ostensibly adult women - single, married, widowed. I don’t think it’s nearly as rare as we’d like to believe, though I agree that it’s not common.
I’d go as far to say it’s a worldwide phenomenon, and not particularly damaging to males (though it can be, of course).
Can’t disagree with much that you say. It is DEFINITELY one of those RARE things on which people can honestly differ.
Damn! Now I’m confused and contradicting myself...
And then there's this:
Barahona was taking forensic science classes at John Jay College and a classmate last saw her on Dec. 22 for a final exam.
I wonder, too. But there are a lot of people with good ideas about significant concepts. You just have to make an act of faith, that there are more smart people with good ideas than obnoxious people with stupid ideas.
And with that, no offense, but ptooeeeh. Wrong is wrong is wrong. If you don't need any other reason, it's just as likely that babies will be conceived in sh*tful circumstances, regardless of the relative ages of the sexes.
“...babies will be conceived...” A VERY good point.
Few people realize how much of the norms of Western civilization have been directed toward controlling the sexual impulses of men (mostly) to ensure that unwanted babies do not come into this world.
The economic effects of such children are simply STAGGERING.
I try not to broad-brush, but it creeps up on a person! You start to wonder if every man you meet is a priapic monster.
Can’t people just be people? Can’t you be a merchant, a customer, a plumber, a person with a broken washer, a committee member, a neighbor ... without a constant obsession with who wants to have sex with whom?
The political and economic effects of a free-sex society are ... what we have now. Do you think what we have now is ideal? Do you think Europe, where nobody has babies except Moslems, is ideal?
Think, think, think. All the data is available.
She obviously wasn’t learning about real life crime in forensic science class.
She probably wasn’t expecting to *be* the final exam.
Who is? We all think our lives will go on as they have ... until they don’t.
It would be nice. I think I go to the gym several times a week, and the people I chat with are thinking, “Pleasant older lady!” rather than evaluating my sexual utility. The idea that I’m wrong creeps me out.
I’m 50 years old, and it has only been the last few years that I haven’t felt I needed to bundle up like a Moslem simply to be “gender neutral” - customer! teacher! - in public, rather than “potential sex object.”
I think it’s rare, but closer to a 1 in 100 kind of way and farther from a 1 in 1000 or 1 in 10,000 way.
It’s certainly not common. I think the question is just how uncommon is it? I honestly don’t believe it’s as rare and shocking as we’d like to believe.
We have original sin, testosterone poisoning, and immersion in a Sodomic, Romans 1 society--so, no, we can't. That is, not without willfully yielding to the Holy Spirit's redeeming work within us, any more than you can keep from condemning us without His help.
I'm reminded that my Christian sister said those things to me about eight years ago after her husband was serially unfaithful to her and destroyed their marriage--she despaired of finding any man who wasn't single-mindedly sex-obsessed 24/7/365. But prayer has indeed produced a wonderful new Christian husband for her.
I’m happy for your sister at the same time that I hope she hasn’t just deceived herself that such a person exists.
What really bothers me is that I have nothing to share with my four daughters except an ever-growing cynicism. What really, really, bothers me is when I try to sort out how, in this context, Christianity is any better than Islam.
My wife educated me, prior to our marriage 38 years ago, that just because a woman tells a man what is bothering her, it doesn't necessarily mean she is asking him to try to fix it. So, I get that it really, really bothers you, and I'm sympathizing without patronizing; but I'd also be willing to help you work through it if you'd like. You've known me now for three or four years and have a fair idea about who I am--and I'm unhappy you're struggling with that, just like I was with my sister's problem. If you're interested, we could choose our venue: here in the thread, private FR mail, etc.
Like Princess Leia. :(
I’m berating the Lord. I’m saying, “Give me a sign.” I literally have post-it notes around the house with, “The sign, the sign.” If He’s come through, I missed it (which is entirely possible ...).
Once I said, in the context of Ambrose Bierce, that there’s a barely perceptible difference between detachment and despair. I go back and forth over the line a lot.
Big time. I mentioned on the NC forum, that there was a guy who said Mick Jagger’s latest baby will have a great life, because his father is a rich celebrity.
Well, Freep that. Carrie Fisher. Only sixty, for the love of god.
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