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Electoral College part of a broken system [Erbrechen Warnung/barf alert]
Deutsche Welle ^ | 12.18.2016 | Jefferson Chase

Posted on 12/19/2016 7:28:18 AM PST by Olog-hai

To be clear right off the bat: On Monday, December 19, the Electoral College will and should confirm Donald Trump as the next president of the United States. Under the current rules, Trump won the 2016 presidential election, the object of which is to amass a majority of electoral votes in a winner-takes-all, state-by-state process. As he himself might say, he “gamed the system” real good. Now the Electoral College will do its job. But let’s hope this is the last time it will do anything.

Defenders of the College, created in the late eighteenth century in response to arcane conditions in American history, argue that the body is the final firewall between the most powerful office in America and someone who is unfit to hold that office. When in modern history has that happened? Never. Trump’s election on Monday will confirm that there is no longer any consensus in the US about what it means for someone to be unfit to be president. […]

… The College’s only modern-day function is to rubber stamp the result of the election. In a time of massive hostility toward governmental bureaucracy, it’s a prime candidate for the ax. Americans should get rid of it. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electoralcollege; eussr; liberalagenda; trumptransition
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The ignorance is strong in this one.
1 posted on 12/19/2016 7:28:18 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, Trump “gamed the system” the same way anyone who wins “games the system”. They only think it’s a bad thing when their side loses.

I think some NFL teams “gamed the system” yesterday by winning with more points because someone decided a touchdown was worth more than a field goal. But if they “fixed” that problem and made a field goal worth more points, that would change the outcomes of a lot of games!


2 posted on 12/19/2016 7:31:14 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Olog-hai

The whole Constitution was an arcane response to those primitive conditions extant in the 18th Century and should obviously be replaced with a system of Benevolent Bureaucratic Total Control for stability and calm.


3 posted on 12/19/2016 7:31:44 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Olog-hai

Another “Constitutional Scholar” who thinks the Constitution is an impediment to the Freedom of the People because it handcuffs those who would enslave us.....


4 posted on 12/19/2016 7:36:11 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Olog-hai

There’s nothing in the US Constitution that requires electoral votes be made on a winner-take-all basis. States are free to apportion their votes as they decide.


5 posted on 12/19/2016 7:40:09 AM PST by Bob (Now, Republicans get to sing "Happy Days Are Here Again". Enjoy the suck, rats.)
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To: Olog-hai

Danke für das Erbrechen Warnung auf Deutsch.


6 posted on 12/19/2016 7:41:13 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: arthurus

I assume you are being sarcastic. Said primitive conditions extant in the 18th century remains current as does the precipitating factors of human nature...


7 posted on 12/19/2016 7:41:55 AM PST by MichaelRDanger
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To: trebb
What a well thought out response ❗️
8 posted on 12/19/2016 7:43:48 AM PST by blaveda
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To: blaveda
What a well thought out response ❗️

Thank you - I get lucky once in a while.

9 posted on 12/19/2016 7:45:28 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Olog-hai

I am fed up with hearing the “Broken” mantra about anything and everything liberals don’t ike.

The immigration system is “broken” - but how would the government know?
They haven’t bothered to fully enforce existing immigration laws in living memory.

The education system is “broken” but their solution is always more of what broke it”

More money for the teachers unions, more totalitarian curricula, more political correctness.

Now the election system is “broken” because democrats don’t like the constitutional system that allows the other side to win the presidency now and then.

Barack Obama basically told us that the US Constitution itself was “broken” because it didn’t give him the power he thought he should have.

So he just ignored the Constitution when it was in his way.


10 posted on 12/19/2016 7:47:41 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Olog-hai

The electoral SYSTEM cannot be put on any chopping block short of a constitutional amendment. The Constitution requires an electoral system for electing the President and there is only ONE way to legitimately and validly change the Constitution: NOT from the SCOTUS bench, NOT by calling it “a living document” - ONLY by a constitutional amendment.

And oh by the way, the electoral system is a well-conceived implementation of our republican (representative), NOT democratic (tyranny of the majority) from of government. The electoral system is way better than anything the Lying Leftist Tyrants who hate freedom and limited government want to come up with.

The Electoral College is one of the wonderful constitutional devices that implements America’s unique representative, republican, and decentralized form of government. Technically, America is not a democracy which tends towards centralization and the “tyranny of the majority”. America is a republic, giving powerful voice to the minority as well as the majority. The Electoral College implements decentralized power by appointing a representative number of state electors throughout the country as Steve Feinstein explains below.

“Thank G-d we have [the Electoral College], or else California and N.Y. would determine every election. Every time….[T]he Electoral College brilliantly smooths out the variances in the voting proclivities among states and regions. Farmers in the middle of the country and importers and exporters on the shore get roughly equal say, as do Madison Ave. execs and factory workers in Tennessee…without the Electoral College, the country’s entire population is subject to the disproportionate voting preferences of the few most populous states.”


11 posted on 12/19/2016 7:47:47 AM PST by Jim W N
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Electoral College Sovereign states part of a broken system

That's what he means, right?

-PJ

12 posted on 12/19/2016 7:49:04 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Lisbon1940

Erbrochen = Broken
Erbrechen = Vomit


13 posted on 12/19/2016 7:51:06 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: Lisbon1940

Gern.


14 posted on 12/19/2016 8:04:00 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

As long as everyone suddenly wants to talk about changing how the voting happens, can we start pushing for the photo ID finally?


15 posted on 12/19/2016 8:30:45 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Olog-hai

Idiots like this one should read The Federalist Papets and the debates from the states constitutional conventions before opening their pie holes


16 posted on 12/19/2016 8:54:57 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Ueriah

“As long as everyone suddenly wants to talk about changing how the voting happens, can we start pushing for the photo ID finally?”

Now you are being a bit extreme, aren’t you?

/S


17 posted on 12/19/2016 9:09:39 AM PST by mund1011
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To: arthurus

“Benevolent Bureaucratic Total Control for stability and calm”

Precisely. We had the Worst Lady grunting just such tripe yesterday: that her beard was a benevolent president doting upon the American people as their children.
This article is an exercise in question begging. “Unfit”? Most of the states believed Donald Trump. The left’s frustration is a palpable thing.

We can keep our Republic—if we wake up every morning remembering how close we came to dodging this bullet, a tyrant named Hillary Clinton and her Uniparty allies.


18 posted on 12/19/2016 9:13:53 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Bob

And that proper apportionment should be based on the popular vote at the House district level to represent the votes accounted by them; and the popular vote for the State to represent those two that account for the two EV for the Senators.


19 posted on 12/19/2016 9:22:11 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2017; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Olog-hai

“the final firewall between the most powerful office in America and someone who is unfit to hold that office.”

It has nothing to do with fitness to hold office. The author is unfit to write about this matter.


20 posted on 12/19/2016 12:04:42 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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