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We may never know how many illegal immigrants vote
redalertpolitics.com ^ | 12/16/2016 | By Joseph Pudlewski

Posted on 12/16/2016 2:03:41 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Donald Trump recently tweeted that he would have won the popular vote if not for the millions of people who voted illegally. He went on to discuss the media’s refusal to cover illegal voting problems in California, New Hampshire, and Virginia. Meanwhile, liberals, led by Jill Stein, are demanding costly recounts in Trump-won states without any indication any voter fraud occurred.

Unfortunately for the President-elect, the burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the defendant.

While Trump’s claim likely has some merit to it, nationwide evidence of his assertion isn’t likely to surface anytime soon. As they did throughout the election, liberals, especially millennials, cry racism anytime someone suggests or attempts to determine the extent to which people voted illegally.

The reason for liberals’ refusal is simple: they want illegal and non-citizen immigrants to vote because they tend to vote Democrat. Obama, for example, won a vast majority of non-white voters, including Hispanics, in 2012. Before the 2016 presidential election, the Obama administration spent $63 million registering immigrant voters, many of whom more than likely supported Democrats.

Democrat-run cities are pushing to allow illegal immigrants to vote in large numbers. The New York Post reported on a bill to give illegal aliens the right to vote in the Big Apple earlier this year. Bloomberg reported that cities with large populations of illegal immigrants, like San Francisco, considered opening up polls to illegal aliens so they could participate in the election as well.

Trump’s claim of illegal immigrants voting in elections are not unfounded. WBBH of Fort Myers, Florida conducted an investigation in 2014 that defies the assertion that illegal aliens don’t vote. The network began by crosschecking jury duty notifications and voter registration records in a single Florida county.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: illegals; voterfraud; voting
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1 posted on 12/16/2016 2:03:41 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Probably a few million in California alone since at least 15 percent of California is illegals.


2 posted on 12/16/2016 2:07:17 PM PST by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind
This does not matter to the Democrats or the news media.They just want to control like they do in Cuba and a lot of countries in South America.
3 posted on 12/16/2016 2:13:17 PM PST by Herman Ball
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To: Logical me

This will turn around as states demand voter ID. From those numbers, it can be determined how many illegal votes were cast.


4 posted on 12/16/2016 2:14:22 PM PST by Does so ("The business of america is business"--President Calvin Coolidge...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Find the ones who did vote and make it a priority to deport them. They are felons. This will serve as an example to the remainder, and IMHO will have a huge impact on the next election.

Jailing these cheaters (or deporting them) is really the answer.


5 posted on 12/16/2016 2:19:08 PM PST by Gulf War One
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To: SeekAndFind

At this point who cares. He won. Now we have to get voter ID’s and purple fingers to stop them next time around.


6 posted on 12/16/2016 2:19:24 PM PST by dgbrown
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To: Gulf War One

Jailing these cheaters and then deporting them is really the answer.


7 posted on 12/16/2016 2:24:03 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( Watching the leftists feeling their sadz makes me LOL ))))
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To: SeekAndFind

Cut off the gravy train of illegal involuntary servitude (welfare of ANY shape, matter, form, size) and the ‘problem’ greatly diminishes.

Open a hotline w/ a $100 reward for each successful find and it drops even further.

Tax the financial wires (Western Union/etc.) and use ‘ill gotten gains’ to fund their own deportation (confiscate and sell all they own) and it’ll be tumbleweeds through Tombstone.


8 posted on 12/16/2016 2:28:40 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course we know how many. All of them and then some.


9 posted on 12/16/2016 3:02:53 PM PST by Archon of the East
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To: SeekAndFind

If T fulfills his promises we can know how many illegals are not voting.

Looking forward.


10 posted on 12/16/2016 3:06:58 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (A Deplorable in Texas)
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To: SeekAndFind

Deport them all, if they aren’t here, they can’t vote.


11 posted on 12/16/2016 3:35:59 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: Logical me

I wouldn’t doubt the 8 million illegal votes (dead, multiple individual votes, and illegals) estimate either.

Which is why liberals absolutely hate voter ID laws.


12 posted on 12/16/2016 3:36:33 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Joe Bfstplk

We had better get the voter fraud fixed by the 2018 midterm election.


13 posted on 12/16/2016 3:36:44 PM PST by growingpains
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To: Logical me

We know over 3 million registered to vote.


14 posted on 12/16/2016 4:19:13 PM PST by Lumper20 (Muslims, Latinos, Asians etc. Assimilate means learn English plus OUR WAYS!)
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To: Does so
...as states demand voter ID...

...counterfeiters who specialize in fake ID's will become proficient in producing fake voter ID's.

I don't see it as a solution. There needs to be more than that.

15 posted on 12/16/2016 5:33:09 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Stay safe out there. The Haters (TM) are dangerous. Very dangerous.)
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To: dgbrown

Rather than a voter ID, make it biometric with a fingerprint and a PIN. Then run the prints against criminal databases and see how many cold cases get solved.


16 posted on 12/16/2016 7:48:21 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: ChicagahAl

Voter registration needs to be done face to face where the registrar verifies the person’s face and signature matches their picture in a database like the DMV and that they can recite the last 4 digits of the SS# for that person and where they were born.

Fake IDs won’t be in the database, and people using other people’s stolen IDs probably won’t know the SS# or birthplace.


17 posted on 12/16/2016 8:03:58 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My gut estimate:

Lowest possible number 1 million

Midrange 3-4 million

Upper possible range 5-6 million


18 posted on 12/16/2016 8:11:29 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: SeekAndFind

The issue is not only illegals. It is also legal aliens, non-living persons, people voting in more than one State, people voting more than once in one State, and impersonators of legitimate voters.

Some of those require Federal information or information shared between States. Who is a citizen? Who is registered in another State. What biometric information or simply a photograph can be compared to the voter who presents an ID? Is that ID valid?


19 posted on 12/16/2016 9:22:09 PM PST by a413
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To: Kellis91789
Voter registration needs to be done face to face...

I agree.

people using other people’s stolen IDs probably won’t know the SS# or birthplace.

That may be wishful thinking; but let's hope so.

20 posted on 12/16/2016 10:09:05 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Stay safe out there. The Haters (TM) are dangerous. Very dangerous.)
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