Pot activists roll joint in Sen. Sessions office

U.S. News & World Report ^ | Dec. 8, 2016 | Steven Nelson

[EDINVA]

Imagine, had the election gone the other way, if pro-life advocates brought an aborted fetus into the office of HRC’s AG appointee in an effort to ‘advocate’ for their cause.

[NobleFree]

There will always be a another word

Poor you. Have a hankie, snowflake.

[Fightin Whitey]

I don’t recall naming you, mentioning you, referring to you.

Puff off.

[TheStickman]

“Puff off”.

Naw, I don’t smoke but very rarely. I prefer edibles & vaping to smoking.

When you speak of cannabis users in general as you did in post 57 don’t be surprised when a cannabis users responds.

Now have a great day :)

[Rurudyne]

Last I heard: yes and no.

A Bill set forth in ‘14 would allow pilot programs in cooperation with State officials ... but did not deregulate the. crop.

Moreover, we need to restore governance by constitutional means by finally casting aside FDR era lawlessness that pretends that the federal can regulate agriculture on the flimsy basis that it may somehow affect commerce among the States.

The lesser Power delegated is not proper justification for taking on a greater and more comprehensive power not delegated (things like regulation of agriculture, manufacture, or commerce within a State).

[NobleFree]

[ifinnegan:] The addiction mars the thinking and judgement of marijuana users.

[TheStickman:] This is a fallacy. Responsible use of cannabis, just as with alcohol does not equal addiction.

[ifinnegan:] Proves my point nicely.

[Fightin Whitey:] The dopers’ obsessiveness is indeed evidence in itself

[TheStickman:] I’m fine with disagreement.

[Fightin Whitey:] I don’t recall naming you, mentioning you, referring to you.

So you're incapable of following a thread. That's a shame.

[NobleFree]

we need to restore governance by constitutional means by finally casting aside FDR era lawlessness that pretends that the federal can regulate agriculture on the flimsy basis that it may somehow affect commerce among the States.

Amen!

[Fightin Whitey]

Good one!

Come on, don’t stop now.

You know you want to say more...lol.

[ifinnegan]

Wrong, Ol Dan.

Old wives tales from the 60’s druggies don’t hold up.

Receptors, up-regulation, down-regulation, homeostasis, feed-back, re-uptake, degradatory enzymes, foreign mimic introduced.

Look in to it.

Or just stay stoned. It’s easier that way.

[Boogieman]

Well, I agree, but government will never give up the power inherent in their commerce clause interpretation willingly.

[NobleFree]

“Heavy Pot Use Can Cause Physical Dependence: Heavy marijuana users who stop cold turkey experience a host of withdrawal symptoms, including irritability, anxiety, and depression, but most symptoms begin to lessen after 10 days or so” - http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/news/20001127/heavy-pot-use-can-cause-physical-dependence

By contrast, alcohol withdrawal can be fatal: “Alcohol withdrawal symptoms can begin as early as two hours after the last drink, persist for weeks, and range from mild anxiety and shakiness to severe complications, such as seizures and delirium tremens (also called DTs). The death rate from DTs — which are characterized by confusion, rapid heartbeat, and fever — is estimated to range from 1% to 5%.” - http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/alcohol-withdrawal-symptoms-treatments

[ifinnegan]

Yeah.

[TheStickman]

“Receptors, up-regulation, down-regulation, homeostasis, feed-back, re-uptake, degradatory enzymes, foreign mimic introduced.”

I looked it up. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1261530/

Current Federally Approved Medical Marijuana Uses:

“In order to better assess arguments for and against the medical use of marijuana, the scientific evidence for the health benefits of cannabis will be reviewed below. It should be noted that the federally supplied cannabis users have been receiving and using cannabis for 11 to 27 years with clinically demonstrated effectiveness in the treatment of glaucoma, chronic musculoskeletal pain, spasm and nausea, and spasticity of multiple sclerosis [4]. Furthermore, there is no evidence that these patients have suffered any negative side effects from their cannabis use.”

Conclusion:

“While this review is far from complete, it attempts to provide a conceptual overview that supports the endocannabinoid system as being nature’s method of harm reduction. There is a pattern to all the cannabinoid-mediated activities described. Many of the biochemical imbalances that cannabinoids protect against are associated with aging. Aging itself is a system-wide movement towards chemical equilibrium (away from the highly regulated far-from-equilibrium state) and as such is an imbalance from which all living organisms suffer. In contrast, the harmful consequences of cannabis use, however exaggerated they often appear to be, are likely to represent significant potential risk for a minority of the population for whom reduced cannabinoid levels might promote mental stability, fertility or more regulated food consumption.”

Very interesting. Seems cannabis isn’t as bad as prohibitionists have been telling us.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Old wives tales from the 60’s druggies don’t hold up. How predictable.

Real physical withdrawal produces real physical symptoms. (See: Alcohol or Drug Withdrawal)

Alcohol or Drug Withdrawal

Withdrawal refers to the physical problems and emotions you experience if you are dependent on a substance (such as alcohol, prescription medicines, or illegal drugs) and then suddenly stop or drastically reduce your intake of the substance.

Symptoms of withdrawal are caused by decreased amounts of alcohol or drugs in the blood or tissues of a person who has grown accustomed to prolonged heavy use and who then suddenly stops. Withdrawal syndrome is a set of symptoms that occur when you decrease or stop drinking or using drugs after using alcohol or drugs for a long time.

Alcohol

Symptoms of alcohol withdrawal may begin from 4 to 12 hours after you cut down or stop drinking, or as long as several days after the last drink, and can last a few days. They can range from mild to life-threatening.

Mild withdrawal symptoms may include:
Intense worry.
Nausea or vomiting.
Shakiness.
Sweating.
Feeling a little tense or edgy.

Severe withdrawal symptoms may include:
Being extremely confused, jumpy, or upset.
Feeling things on your body that are not there.
Seeing or hearing things that are not there.
Severe trembling.

Life-threatening symptoms of withdrawal are called delirium tremens (DTs). Symptoms of DTs include all of the symptoms listed above plus seizures. Untreated DTs can lead to death.

Prescription medicines or illegal drugs

Symptoms of withdrawal from either illegal drugs or prescription medicines depend on the drug or combination of drugs. Common withdrawal symptoms include:

Abdominal pain.
Nausea and vomiting.
Drenching sweats.
Nervousness and shaking.
Seizures.
Death

Now, let's compare the list above to those posted by NobleFree: "irritability, anxiety, and depression"

Hmmm... I don't see abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, sweats, shaking, seizures, DTs or death on that list.

But, since you're the medical genius and I'm just a dumb stoner, perhaps you could point out why those who stop smoking pot cold-turkey don't experience the same physical symptoms as those who are going through withdrawal of alcohol or opiates.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Seems cannabis isn’t as bad as prohibitionists have been telling us.

Prohibitionists never change their stripes. Here's a short list of lies they told during Alcohol Prohibition. (See: Prohibition: The Noble Experiment

• Early temperance writers often insisted that because of their high blood alcohol content, "habitual drunkards" could spontaneously combust and burn to death from inside.
• A temperance publication wrote of drinking parents who gave birth to small children with a "yen for alcohol so strong that the mere sight of a bottle shaped like a whiskey flask brought them whining for a nip."
• One temperance "scientific authority" implied that inhaling alcohol vapors might lead to defective offspring for at least three generations.
• Because the temperance movement taught that alcohol was a poison, it insisted that school books never mention the contradictory fact that alcohol was commonly prescribed by physicians for medicinal and health purposes.
• Temperance Leader Lucius Manlius Sargent tried to get secondary schools, colleges and universities to eleminate all references to alcoholic beverages in ancient Greek and Latin texts.
• Because the temperance movement taught that drinking alcohol was sinful, it was forced to confront the contrary fact that Jesus drank wine. Its solution was to insist that Jesus drank grape juice rather than wine.
• The Bible says to "use a little wine for thy stomach's sake" (1 Timothy 5:23). This admonition caused serioius problems for temperance writers, who argued that alcohol was a poison and that drinking it was a sin. So they insisted that the Bible was actually advising people to rub alcohol on their abdomens.
• A major prohibitionist group, the Women's Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) taught as "scientific fact" that the majority of beer drinkers die from dropsie.
• The WCTU suggested that school teachers put half of a calf’s brain in an empty jar into which alcohol should be poured. As the color of the brain turned from pink to gray, pupils were to be warned that a drink of alcohol would do the same to their brains.

[Rurudyne]

Actually, it isn’t “inherent”. What they claim is an abuse and misconstruction of the language.

[Boogieman]

“Actually, it isn’t “inherent”.”

It is inherent in their interpretation, not inherent in the Constitution.

[ifinnegan]

You can’t even follow a coherent train of thought.

[ifinnegan]

Moving the goal posts I see.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Moving the goal posts I see.

Still avoiding the question I see.