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Losers Who Won't Lose: What Are The Odds Of A Successful Hillary Recount?
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/27/2016 | Submitted by Salil Mehta via Statistical Ideas blog

Posted on 11/27/2016 5:09:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Submitted by Salil Mehta via Statistical Ideas blog,

President-elect Trump won 306 electoral votes versus Hillary Clinton's 232 (24% less electoral votes).  Similar to 2000, the surrendering party then reversed course and put the nation through a recount, just for the sake of it.  What are the odds that such an exercise here would yield successful for Ms. Clinton?  Based on statistical randomness of re-assessing voter intent, the chance of Hillary emerging as the victor is far less than 10%

Anything can happen, but these lean odds do not rise to the level of putting our peaceful democracy into the hands of a temptuous recount scheme every time a stung party loses (let alone misleadingly blame it on something else from Russia's Putin, to sexism, to "in hindsight the popular vote would be reasonable", to FBI Director Comey).  All Americans should instead focus on how the 6 states that flipped this election, were all economically ignored and all flipped to Donald Trump

The only viable path for a Hillary Clinton victory at this stage is to astoundingly uncover a wide-spread (across three states) fraud.  And that's equally unlikely, since the basis for the voting aberrations occurred in less populated counties and anyway the three states employ three different voting mechanisms, so the fraud would have had to somehow occur through different transmission vehicles (paper voting, and electronic voting) and we would require a speedy judicial resolution for states such as Pennsylvania that sidestepped back-up recordings from their direct voting equipment.

We should note the following statistical facts about the electoral vote in the three recount states:

Given that Mr. Trump won by 74 electoral votes, Ms. Clinton would need to flip all three states noted above, in order to liquidate this deficit (i.e., >74/2 = >37 votes).  The leads described above however, among 4.4 million voters from these three states, is highly statistically significant on a state-level (and certainly when all three states are combined).  It would be remarkably unlikely (>5? event) that we would arbitrarily second-guess every one of these millions of voters' intents and, convert any (certainly let alone all) of these three states.

Hillary must be cognizant of this improbability, and so is piggy-backing off of the second most reasonable recount rationale: not that errors in intent occurred, but rather straight-fraud on such a scale that would flip most of these states.  While tempting for true Democrat supporters, this fraud scenario is of course dubious.  Because for it to work, we would need to suppose that such fraud occurred in three different ways at once:

The bottom line is everything must go right here, in all three state recounts (between proving fraud and getting mathematical help from wide-spread voter intent errors), in order to better align towards a Donald Trump downfall.  And even if this all occurred, accounting for all of these statistical adjustments, the probability of a Hillary Clinton triumph is still quite low. 

Lower than the odds that comic Nate Silver and all of the other "pollsters" gave to Mr. Trump throughout this election season.  It is these same pollsters and juvenile campaign "scientists" who completely mis-forecasted Ms. Clinton's path, who are now gasping for a recount phenomenon.  This was nicely articulated in a recent Bloomberg article here:



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016recount; bloggers; jillstein; mathsucks; odds; recount; suckittrebek
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLkm5XFX3C4

(Sorry for the lack of fidelity)
Regards,
HLB


61 posted on 11/27/2016 7:34:28 PM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: Voluntaryist

Thanks for the chuckle.


62 posted on 11/27/2016 7:35:17 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: madison10

I think this is just “make news” for the alphabet soup networks.
TRUMP WON, they lost; so hey, lets create a scandal.
and try to make TRUMP’S WIN LOOK BAD.


63 posted on 11/27/2016 7:53:28 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: jospehm20

And frankenSTEIN.


64 posted on 11/27/2016 7:59:04 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: freedumb2003

I hope you are right.

:)


65 posted on 11/27/2016 9:16:13 PM PST by Salamander (Leading a life of quiet desperation...)
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To: funfan

>>Could this be used for the vote tampering allegations?<<

That is to try to convince the judge to allow the recount.

From everything I have ready it doesn’t kick off an audit but I can research further (I love legal wonky stuff like that).


66 posted on 11/28/2016 7:48:35 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Good morning President Trump)
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