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Losers Who Won't Lose: What Are The Odds Of A Successful Hillary Recount?
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/27/2016 | Submitted by Salil Mehta via Statistical Ideas blog

Posted on 11/27/2016 5:09:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Submitted by Salil Mehta via Statistical Ideas blog,

President-elect Trump won 306 electoral votes versus Hillary Clinton's 232 (24% less electoral votes).  Similar to 2000, the surrendering party then reversed course and put the nation through a recount, just for the sake of it.  What are the odds that such an exercise here would yield successful for Ms. Clinton?  Based on statistical randomness of re-assessing voter intent, the chance of Hillary emerging as the victor is far less than 10%

Anything can happen, but these lean odds do not rise to the level of putting our peaceful democracy into the hands of a temptuous recount scheme every time a stung party loses (let alone misleadingly blame it on something else from Russia's Putin, to sexism, to "in hindsight the popular vote would be reasonable", to FBI Director Comey).  All Americans should instead focus on how the 6 states that flipped this election, were all economically ignored and all flipped to Donald Trump

The only viable path for a Hillary Clinton victory at this stage is to astoundingly uncover a wide-spread (across three states) fraud.  And that's equally unlikely, since the basis for the voting aberrations occurred in less populated counties and anyway the three states employ three different voting mechanisms, so the fraud would have had to somehow occur through different transmission vehicles (paper voting, and electronic voting) and we would require a speedy judicial resolution for states such as Pennsylvania that sidestepped back-up recordings from their direct voting equipment.

We should note the following statistical facts about the electoral vote in the three recount states:

Given that Mr. Trump won by 74 electoral votes, Ms. Clinton would need to flip all three states noted above, in order to liquidate this deficit (i.e., >74/2 = >37 votes).  The leads described above however, among 4.4 million voters from these three states, is highly statistically significant on a state-level (and certainly when all three states are combined).  It would be remarkably unlikely (>5? event) that we would arbitrarily second-guess every one of these millions of voters' intents and, convert any (certainly let alone all) of these three states.

Hillary must be cognizant of this improbability, and so is piggy-backing off of the second most reasonable recount rationale: not that errors in intent occurred, but rather straight-fraud on such a scale that would flip most of these states.  While tempting for true Democrat supporters, this fraud scenario is of course dubious.  Because for it to work, we would need to suppose that such fraud occurred in three different ways at once:

The bottom line is everything must go right here, in all three state recounts (between proving fraud and getting mathematical help from wide-spread voter intent errors), in order to better align towards a Donald Trump downfall.  And even if this all occurred, accounting for all of these statistical adjustments, the probability of a Hillary Clinton triumph is still quite low. 

Lower than the odds that comic Nate Silver and all of the other "pollsters" gave to Mr. Trump throughout this election season.  It is these same pollsters and juvenile campaign "scientists" who completely mis-forecasted Ms. Clinton's path, who are now gasping for a recount phenomenon.  This was nicely articulated in a recent Bloomberg article here:



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016recount; bloggers; jillstein; mathsucks; odds; recount; suckittrebek
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1 posted on 11/27/2016 5:09:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Many criminals never stop unless incarcerated or eliminated.


2 posted on 11/27/2016 5:12:17 PM PST by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind

If the recount doesn’t uncover Hillary votes by illegals, unregistered, and dead voters, then the recount is rigged.


3 posted on 11/27/2016 5:16:08 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: SeekAndFind

What the Heckyl and Jekyll do odds have to do with creating fraudulent votes?
Odds of success don’t matter when Soros makes fake ballots and adds to the counts.

Where are Trump’s injunctions?

Where is his team on this?


4 posted on 11/27/2016 5:16:09 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Don't stop until all are in jail. Drain the swamp. Build the wall.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Exactly zero.

They can’t swing PA and without it, no Clinton presidency.

Libs are grasping for straws.

I mean this recount is being pressed by the same folks who last month demanded Trump accept the result.

Well - not them when they lose.


5 posted on 11/27/2016 5:17:31 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FriOend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: SeekAndFind

“... What Are The Odds Of A Successful Hillary Recount ..”
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The odds are ZERO
bit that is not what this is all about ...


6 posted on 11/27/2016 5:18:33 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hillary lost the popular Vote.

They are counting the votes for Trump and Hillary and claiming he lost the popular vote.

There were other candidates in the race, who also received votes

70,608,915 votes were cast for someone other than Hillary and she can never overcome those numbers.

That is a difference of 6,773,493 compared to the 63,835,422 votes she garnered.

She lost the popular vote, period.

7 posted on 11/27/2016 5:19:25 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through you're anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for good article. I’m going to ignore news for next two weeks, no point getting upset about it. I seriously despise Dems and need to focus on the love and joy of the Christmas season.

God bless America and Donald Trump.


8 posted on 11/27/2016 5:20:24 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SeekAndFind
Based on statistical randomness of re-assessing voter intent, the chance of Hillary emerging as the victor is far less than 10%.

The correct percentage is ZERO!

I'm getting sick of FAKE NEWS BS!

9 posted on 11/27/2016 5:20:38 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I know exactly what you mean. Most here don’t.
Unfortunate.


10 posted on 11/27/2016 5:20:48 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: SeekAndFind

I expect new found truckloads of ballots.


11 posted on 11/27/2016 5:21:13 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (these protestors are not anarchists. They are Hillary Supporting Demoncr)
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To: SeekAndFind

Largest deficit made up in a state wide recount was 700, Hillary needs 10,000, 30,000 and 70,000. No chance


12 posted on 11/27/2016 5:21:55 PM PST by Emergencyawesome
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To: Carl Vehse
If the recount doesn’t uncover Hillary votes by illegals, unregistered, and dead voters, then the recount is rigged.

I'm not sure that a simple recount can do that. All they're doing is looking at the votes and tallying them up. They have no idea who voted for which candidate. If there's cheating, I don't think that a simple recount will catch it.

Now maybe, there's more to the recount process than the title implies, but I don't know.

13 posted on 11/27/2016 5:22:10 PM PST by meyer (There is no political solution to this troubling evolution...)
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To: SeekAndFind

California should demand a recount, and sort out all the illegals. Then Hilary would lose all our 50 (or so) EC votes. I bet she’d resist that.


14 posted on 11/27/2016 5:22:29 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Repeal The 17th

What do you believe this is about? Other than ruining our holidays?


15 posted on 11/27/2016 5:23:14 PM PST by madison10 (Almost disenfranchised Michigander.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let it be known that Hillary & Co are soon to meet a grand jury.


16 posted on 11/27/2016 5:24:27 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (these protestors are not anarchists. They are Hillary Supporting Demoncr)
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To: stocksthatgoup

This is a learning opportunity for those suggesting just moving on when it comes to LIBs. They must be CRUSHED and Re-CRUSHED. NO QUARTER...EVER. They are malignancies on any and every civilization.


17 posted on 11/27/2016 5:24:32 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Where? NY?


18 posted on 11/27/2016 5:25:55 PM PST by madison10 (Almost disenfranchised Michigander.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

“...Where is his team on this?...”

You’ll know where it is if he needs it...Be assured that Trump isn’t just on his hind quarters....


19 posted on 11/27/2016 5:26:07 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: JBW1949

This.


20 posted on 11/27/2016 5:27:07 PM PST by madison10 (Almost disenfranchised Michigander.)
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