Posted on 11/26/2016 4:58:45 AM PST by Kaslin
As disgraced Democrat John Edwards liked to say, “There are two Americas.” There’s an America where people love this country, want it to be successful and believe in using tried and tested means like capitalism, conservatism, the Constitution and Christianity to make that happen. Then there’s an America where this country is shameful, deserves to be brought down a peg and all the old values that served us in the past need to be disgraced and destroyed. These views are becoming increasingly difficult to square.
Take Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, for example. Are there any meaningful areas of agreement you have with them politically as conservatives? Do you agree with them on abortion, gay marriage, Obamacare, the Constitution, controlling the border, taxes, states’ rights, spending, judges, school choice, etc., etc.? Those disagreements might be mostly irrelevant if liberals were content to live how they want in states they control while leaving everyone else alone. Instead, liberals have worked incessantly to create an all-powerful centralized government that they believe should marginalize and prey upon people who don’t share their political beliefs. The idealized liberal world is one where you do the work, they take your tax dollars and give that money to people who don’t work as hard as you in exchange for keeping the Left in power. That unworkable liberal philosophy is inexorably marching the country towards bankruptcy and ruin.
…Which brings us to California and the “Calexit.” Inspired by Britain’s “Brexit” from Europe, a group called Yes California wants to put leaving the United States on the ballot for Californians in 2018. If liberals want California to secede, then conservatives should say, “Godspeed, Libs!” Of course, there are some caveats. Any nuclear weapons and military equipment should stay in the United States. Buy your own military hardware for your new nation. Additionally, large swathes of California aren’t liberal. Roughly half the physical area in California went for Trump over Hillary, for instance. Split the state in two and let the liberal half form its own nation while the conservative “new California” stays in the United States. Given the raw size of California and the deep political differences, the state should be split in two whether there’s a “Calexit” or not.
That begs an obvious question. The Yes California group has an argument about why Californians should leave the United States, but why should the rest of us want it to happen?
Well, if you believe that liberalism is destroying the country, getting rid of California would put a big thumb on the scale for conservatism. California has 55 electoral votes that are automatically in the liberal column every presidential election. Spreading those electoral votes across the other states, or, even better, having California leave while a smaller, more conservative California stays in the country would make it much more likely Republicans would be elected. That might literally be the difference between the country having a bright future and going down the tubes. Additionally, California has two liberal senators and 39 out of 53 of its House members are Democrats. You want to cement in Republican control of the House for the foreseeable future? That shift would probably do it.
That alone would be worth getting rid of California, but there are also economic considerations. For one thing, we wouldn’t need to pay California residents Social Security or Medicare any longer. Given that we’re talking about a state with 36 million people where 11% of the population was over 65 in 2015 with that number projected to rise to 18% in 2030, the amount of money saved would be staggering.
Then there’s the state’s enormous debt,
“Stanford’s PensionTracker.org launched last fall, initially listing local agencies, and last week added data for every state. California ranked seventh highest nationwide for debt-per-household when viewed through rose-colored glasses ($15,618); and third-highest in the nation when viewed through skeptic’s glasses ($77,700).
“I was a little surprised that the unfunded amount per household is as high as it is,” said Joe Nation, public policy professor at Stanford and director of the data project.
All told, California’s public pension systems are $281.5 billion short, including pension bond debt. Through Nation’s lens, they’re nearly $1 trillion in the hole – or $946.4 billion.”
Like Detroit, Puerto Rico, and Greece, California is headed for bankruptcy and by the time it’s done, the bill will likely be over a trillion dollars. If we could wash our hands of that problem, it would be good news for the country.
So, if California wants to say, “Hasta La Vista, Baby,” conservatives across the country should welcome it and do everything they can to facilitate a happy split.
Lincoln fought and suffered to preserve the Union ...
California belongs to The USA, not Mexico
I don't know what the solution is, but the problem developed many years ago as the Mexicans moved in and took over
CALexit is long overdue.
Only if you take western OR and WA with you. You can also have NY, CT and MA. You can create a real axis of stupid.
If Cali were to go, it would not be a solution. We would likely have a situation like the middle east. Much like Iran, Cali would still be spreading their hateful doctrines to their neighbors. They would, no doubt have to interfere with the way others live. Leftists can’t help it as arrogance combined with ignorance forces them into the role of tyrants.
What would be great would be having Mexico reassuming control over it.Then they will find out how lucky they were.
At least they will be out of our hair.
So the want to pi$$ away 55 EVs AND stop consuming untold billions of our taxes?? Cool
If Trump follows thru on E-Verify, they won’t make it to 2018.
Too bad most on the right are contented with living elsewhere. I’d love to see a mass movement among conservatives into CA, buying the homes of the leftists on condition that said moonbats remove themselves from the USA. “Remove and Replace.”
Is Briain going to law claim now? Sir Fransis Drake laid clam long ago and left a marker that’s still there.
[California belongs to The USA, not Mexico]
Californians do not OWN California. They’ve been given the freedom to live there.
My questions are:
“Since California is host to many of America’s aircraft manufacturers and weapons systems, how long before THEY exit?”
“Where will the famous Jet Propulsion Laboratory relocate to?”
“Where will the U.S. MILITARY BASES relocate to, since the exited California will no longer be American territory, with all those dollars that support the local economy?”
In 1977 a judge ordered the Los Angeles schools to bus our kids into violent neighborhoods. White Flight emptied the city, schools closed, apartments offered first month free rent, houses lost their value and were hard to sell.
I’m expecting a Brown Flight and houses will cheap.
Californians might blanche a little when they see the tab for their portion of the $20 trillion national debt. Do we figure out the “separate checks” by population?
Also, should we start building a border wall, so the liberal “California Disease” won’t spread to the rest of the country? Texas is already showing patches of blue because of Democrat imports.
Of COURSE they do ... what good is a sovereign state if it can’t be sovereign ?
I want them to secede too. That way we can invade.
Conservative want California purged
Califirnia and New York should be purged from the Union
I know, I know, good people Freepers yada yada. They can redivide the territory from within after the purge
“Too bad most on the right are contented with living elsewhere. I’d love to see a mass movement among conservatives into CA, buying the homes of the leftists on condition that said moonbats remove themselves from the USA.”
That could happen. . . if conservatives were more numerous and having large families.
It would be like stink to flies - a big draw to pull libtards away from the rest of the USA to their mecca of stupid. Just build the wall on the two remaining sides and lock the gate behind them!
The impact of CA leaving would be mitigated a lot by just allowing the liberal-controlled areas to leave. Which would leave 75 percent or so of the state still in the Union.
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