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(VANITY) What do we say to Californians who want to secede?
http://www.freerepublic.com/~brilliant/ ^ | 11/13/2016 | Me

Posted on 11/13/2016 8:27:56 AM PST by Brilliant

What do we say to Californians who want to secede? Most often, I hear, "Good. Do it," or some variant thereof. But that is way too flippant, and there are much better potential responses.

Another appropriate response might be, "That wasn't the deal. The deal was that you would move to Canada."

But even that misses the major lesson that should be learned from this election.

The truth is that the people who elected Donald Trump as President spent the last 8 years suffering through Obama. There was little talk of secession, and certainly no organized effort to secede by any state. Those who talked about secession were quickly ridiculed, often by those who are now advocating California secession.

We suffered through Obama. We suffered through the slow economy. We suffered through the Obamacare lies and then failure. We suffered through riots and rising crime. Now the California liberals can suffer through Trump.

As Obama said, "I won." But now, Trump can say the same, and California must accept the result, just as we were compelled to do in the case of Obama.

And that is not merely a way of saying that it is time for payback. It is simply what it means to be a nation. We are one nation. Not two. Not more.

In a democratic republic, the representatives of the people are elected by a majority of electors. The minority must accept the result. It is impossible for everyone to have their own way. That is the nature of government. It is, in fact, one of the great problems with government, and is one of the reasons that the Founders built this nation on federalism.

There was once a time when states had considerable rights. There was once a time when the federal government was small, and the state government was the primary governmental influence in our lives.

That day has passed, and it has passed largely because of the political activism of progressives in California and other very liberal states, who wanted to substitute federal power for state power. If our country were still run primarily by the states, as conservatives would have liked, then we would not be having this conversation. The progressives created this situation. Now they must deal with it or be branded hypocrites.

I see that the major California politicians are vowing that they will make sure that irrespective what happens in Washington, California will continue to welcome illegal immigrants, and follow liberal policies that have been rejected by the nation as a whole.

How is it, then, that over the last 8 years, we in the rest of the United States have been compelled to accept the left-wing policies of Barack Obama and the Democratic Party elite? No one told us that we had the option. When the issue was tested in the courts, the courts ruled that the states must yield to the policies of Mr. Obama and the liberal elite because they were in control of the US government. Yet those same liberals claim the right to ignore federal directive now that they are no longer in power.

No, it is much too generous to give the Californians the option of secession. The "do it" response is just too lenient. They need to be taught a lesson, and who better to teach that lesson than they themselves? By telling them simply "We won," we are only holding them to their own standard of fairness. They created this situation. Now they must deal with it.


TOPICS: US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
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As an aside, I have read comments of California residents who say that they awoke on the day after the election and found themselves a "stranger in a foreign land."

Yes, they are in many cases a stranger in a foreign land. In California, many of them are not Americans at all. Most of them, to the extent that they are citizens, were naturalized, and still seem to have their allegiance to Mexico or some other distant land of origin. At these protests, you see the protesters waiving Mexican flags. Of course, they have the right to do so, but we take it for what it is worth... simply the opinion of Mexican nationals who think that Americans owe them something, or of immigrants who refuse to assimilate and who seek instead to create their own nation within our borders.

1 posted on 11/13/2016 8:27:56 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Take your share of the debt, deficit and unfunded liabilities with you and FOAD.
2 posted on 11/13/2016 8:29:28 AM PST by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: Brilliant

Buh bye felicia. Hope you enjoy the suspension in any and all federal funding for anything. Condolences to our conservative friends in calibfornia.


3 posted on 11/13/2016 8:30:45 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Brilliant

Adios!

On second thought, no, there are huge red areas in CA, and lots of good people, so I’d take a narrow coastal strip from SF to LA and get rid of that. The rest is ours.


4 posted on 11/13/2016 8:30:58 AM PST by Gunpowder green
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Buh Bye!


5 posted on 11/13/2016 8:30:59 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Repeal & replace Obamacare, tax reform, fix infrastructure, fixin military, Israel, kill enemies)
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To: Brilliant

I think it would be awesome. Maybe keep northern California but give the southern half to Mexico.


6 posted on 11/13/2016 8:31:01 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Brilliant

What do we say?

We say, “adios”


7 posted on 11/13/2016 8:31:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Brilliant

“What do we say to Californians who want to secede?”

We’ll help you pack.


8 posted on 11/13/2016 8:32:01 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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We say goodbye then they say “we grow a lot of your food” and we reply we will buy some if ut still...sell the rest to Mexico.


9 posted on 11/13/2016 8:32:01 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Repeal & replace Obamacare, tax reform, fix infrastructure, fixin military, Israel, kill enemies)
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To: Brilliant

I disagree. The western portions of California, Oregon, and Washington should be encourage to leave as should New England, New Jersey, and downstate New York and Pennsylvania. We are no longer one country and we should admit it.


10 posted on 11/13/2016 8:32:04 AM PST by rcofdayton (.)
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To: deadrock

agreed - Calexit would be a good thing for Californians and even better for America.

BTW - the Calexiteers realize ~10% of federal debt will be part of the package they’ll assume. 10% because California is about 10% of population of US.


11 posted on 11/13/2016 8:32:22 AM PST by vooch
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They can move, but the land stays.


12 posted on 11/13/2016 8:32:36 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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It’s north Tijuana anyway.

Don’t drink the water.


13 posted on 11/13/2016 8:33:19 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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Secede? When their own state can’t even handle
Itself? Are they effing stupid?


14 posted on 11/13/2016 8:33:51 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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Move to Venezuela you statist socialists.


15 posted on 11/13/2016 8:34:07 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Give each liberal a thousand dollars to move to Cuba and permanently renounce US citizenship. Money well spent.


16 posted on 11/13/2016 8:34:37 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny (agent Able Deplor))
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To: Morpheus2009

California is unsustaneable.


17 posted on 11/13/2016 8:34:54 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: vooch

Of course. Population percentages is the only fair way.


18 posted on 11/13/2016 8:35:06 AM PST by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: Brilliant

Every day an average of 200 people leave California for Texas to find work. To other red state alike. Productive Califonrian are seceding California now. What’s left is ever dumber and ever lazier.

What should we say?

“Good Luck with that!”


19 posted on 11/13/2016 8:35:29 AM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Please do. Just let the northern part of the state and The Sierra separate and form our own state first. The State of Jefferson.


20 posted on 11/13/2016 8:35:45 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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