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OB-GYN to Hillary Clinton: 'No Medical Situation' Requires Late-Term Abortion
Christian Post ^ | October 22, 2016 | Samuel Smith

Posted on 10/22/2016 6:43:48 AM PDT by NYer

FULL TITLE: OB-GYN to Hillary Clinton: 'No Medical Situation' Requires Late-Term Abortion, C-Section Delivery Is Safer

Hillary Clinton (Photo: Reuters/Gary Cameron)

Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Clinton addresses the Planned Parenthood Action Fund in Washington, June 10, 2016.

In response to Hillary Clinton's defense of partial-birth and late-term abortions at Wednesday night's debate, a California obstetrician-gynecologist has reportedly taken to Facebook to decry the claim that third-trimester abortion is necessary to help save the life of the mother.

The Democratic presidential nominee defended her opposition to bans on late-term and partial-birth abortions by arguing that there are cases in which mothers and families are forced to make "the most heartbreaking, painful decisions" because they get news that the woman's health may be in jeopardy.

As Clinton effectively supports a woman's right to abort up until birth, she has defended her opposition to 20-week late-term abortion bans by saying that bans should only be put in place at the "very end" of the third trimester and should allow for health of the mother exceptions.

After Clinton's remarks Wednesday night, Dr. Lawrence Koning reportedly responded to Clinton's claims in a Facebook post, where he explained that there is "no medical" situation that requires aborting a child.

Koning's Facebook post was reported by Steve Schultz, the founder of of the websites Breaking Christian News and The Elijah List.

According to Schultz, he and Koning graduated together in 1973. When Schultz saw Koning's post on his personal Facebook page, he asked if he could publish the quote online, to which Koning is quoted as responding, "Do it!"

"As an ob/gyn physician for 31 years there is no medical situation that requires aborting / killing the baby in the third trimester to 'save the mother's life,'" Koning reportedly wrote. "Just deliver the baby by c/section and the baby has 95+% survival with readily available NICU care even at 28 weeks. C/section is quicker and safer than partial birth abortion for the mother."

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The Christian Post reached out to Koning's office to confirm that he posted the aforementioned comment on his Facebook. However, no response was given before press time.

According to the Charlotte Lozier Institute, the United States is one of seven developed countries where it is legal for elective abortions to occur past 20 weeks of gestation, putting it in the same company as countries like China, North Korea and Vietnam.

Last August, world renowned pediatric neurosurgeon and former presidential candidate Ben Carson asserted that the argument that abortion is used to save a mother's life is "spurious," given the medical technology available today.

"I think when it comes to the case of the life of the mother, you have to look at the individual situation, recognize that's largely a spurious argument," Carson explained on "CBS This Morning." "Because we have advanced so much in medicine these days, that situation rarely occurs."

Also during the debate on Wednesday, Republican nominee Donald Trump claimed that Clinton supported aborting babies in the ninth month of pregnancy and added that she supports ripping babies out of the womb.

Donald Trump (Photo: Reuters/Saul Loeb/Pool)

Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump speaks as Democratic U.S. presidential nominee Hillary Clinton (R) listens during their presidential town hall debate at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, U.S., October 9, 2016.

In response, another obstetrician gynecologist named Dr. Jen Gunter penned an op-ed published by Vox in which she argued that late-term abortions are extremely rare and that there are no nine month abortions.

While the Center for Disease Control finds that late-term abortions (abortions past 20 weeks) account for only 1.3 percent of the total abortions in America, Gunter states that most late-term abortions in cases where the mother's health is in jeopardy occur before the 24-week mark.

"After 24 weeks, if a pregnant person is sick enough that she needs to deliver for her health, obstetricians either induce labor or perform a C-section, and the baby is attended by the neonatal intensive care unit," Gunter, the author of the book The Preemie Primer, wrote

"Trump would apparently have you believe, and perhaps he believes himself, that in these situations doctors do a delivery and then commit infanticide," Gunter continued. "Health of the mother abortions absolutely do happen — ruptured membranes with an infection or deteriorating heart disease, for example — but they happen before 24 weeks. No OB-GYN is doing third-trimester abortions for the health of the mother. We simply just practice obstetrics and deliver the baby by the most appropriate method."

However, FactCheck.org points out that late-term abortions are not exclusively used in cases with mothers with health risks, pointing to a 2013 study published in the pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute's peer-reviewed journal, "Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health."

According to the study, "[i]n many ways, women who had later abortions were similar to those who obtained first-trimester procedures."



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1 posted on 10/22/2016 6:43:48 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; Dutchboy88; ...

I really wish Trump had pointed out in the debate that the survival rate of babies delivered that late was so high and that an early delivery was an option for women whose health is in danger from the pregnancy.

Killing the baby is NOT necessary if the mother needs to be saved. It’s simple an excuse the liberals use to justify murdering the baby and supporting their abortion agenda.


2 posted on 10/22/2016 6:51:09 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

It’s obvious talking about abortion is what Hillary does best, and Trump’s knowledge seemed common sense but limited.

BTW, this is kind of off topic, it have noticed that MeGYN Ryan spells her name with a “gyn”? Think that’s to make a point?


3 posted on 10/22/2016 6:54:08 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: NYer

More power to the brave doctors quoted in this article!


4 posted on 10/22/2016 6:56:04 AM PDT by Vision Thing (You see the depths of my heart, and You love me the same...)
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To: metmom
Dr. George Tiller 'martyr' to the church of infanticide.
5 posted on 10/22/2016 7:00:45 AM PDT by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MNDude

I have no idea.


6 posted on 10/22/2016 7:04:12 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NYer

Bump


7 posted on 10/22/2016 7:22:26 AM PDT by milford421
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To: Vision Thing

I knew Larry and his wife Julie back in the early 90s when we lived in California. He’s a good guy, and it’s great that he’s speaking out about this.


8 posted on 10/22/2016 7:22:28 AM PDT by Prince of Space (UNBORN LIVES MATTER!)
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To: NYer
illary dead soul demonically possessed Clinton is, right alongside Barbara Boxer, a champion of partial birth abortion MURDER. The murdering of alive unborn SENSING children is a rite in the leftist agenda. illary is evil incarnate.
9 posted on 10/22/2016 7:24:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: metmom

I have been saying this forever. Have a C Section. Babies have a very good chance of survival born in the 3th trimester.

My niece’s triplets were born in the 3rd trimester and after less than a month all 3 are home.

There is never a reason for a late term abortion. Have the baby and place it for adoption.

What do these women tell their family, friends co-workers, etc. when they ask about the baby. Certainly they don’t admit to such a horrible act of killing a 7,8,9 month old baby. Do they say it was a still birth, I just can’t imagine what story they tell.


10 posted on 10/22/2016 7:26:00 AM PDT by muggs
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To: muggs

I could not imagine admitting to someone that I killed my baby for my convenience.


11 posted on 10/22/2016 7:28:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I can understand ectopic pregnancies though, but even those are really early on.


12 posted on 10/22/2016 7:30:18 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting this.

There is reason to dismember the baby. Even if the baby is already dead in the women, there is no medical reason to perform an abortion. It is safer for the mother to have induced labor or C-section to remove the baby.

These people make up excuses to rip babies up when there is no medical need for it.


13 posted on 10/22/2016 7:50:13 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: NYer

Paging Doctor Gruber:

“Trump would apparently have you believe, and perhaps he believes himself, that in these situations doctors do a delivery and then commit infanticide,” Gunter continued.

Yes, Dr. Gunter, that is EXACTLY what Dr. Gruber did!
And PP continues to fight the right to inspect abortuaries for cleanliness and these type of abuses.


14 posted on 10/22/2016 7:53:02 AM PDT by G Larry (Avoiding the Truth-Hillary's only expertise)
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To: NYer

My sister tripped on some stairs during her 5th month of pregnancy that induced labor. My neice spent two months in NICU and now at 13 is a ballet-dancing, piano-playing fool. She is above average in every physical category for a 13 yr. old girl. Must be the Wisconsin cheese.


15 posted on 10/22/2016 8:10:01 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: metmom; NYer

In order to understand the liberal position, you need to understand that they are not talking about saving the life of the mother. They want abortion up until the last second and they will use weasel words and lawyerly loopholes to get what they want.

When they say “the health of the mother is at risk”, they don’t mean that she is in danger of dying. They mean that her mental health is at risk. If she had a child, she might be stressed out or depressed. Or possibly they are referring to her financial health.

They like to imply that the woman’s life is at stake in order to manipulate people to feel sorry for the mother and sympathize with the idea of abortion. But the reality is far different from what they imply.


16 posted on 10/22/2016 8:16:19 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: NYer

WE have a local OB-Gyn Dr. that has run for political office. Dr. Greg Brannon
Heard him on the radio yesterday stating the same.
ZERO reason for a late/partial birth abortion to save the mother.
Deliver the baby, cure the mother.


17 posted on 10/22/2016 8:18:21 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: NYer

Someone set me straight on this...so is this practice still legal in all the states? Some of the states? I had thought that the Supreme Court had ruled against it years ago, but apparently it’s still being practiced? Or are the DEMS wanting it to be legal again?


18 posted on 10/22/2016 8:18:53 AM PDT by Jessarah
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To: NYer
there is no medical situation that requires aborting / killing the baby in the third trimester to 'save the mother's life

But that vile woman said, "life life or health of the mother". health being a hole, big enough to drive a D-10 through.

If the birth of the baby may give the potential mother a head ache, well then that effects her health

19 posted on 10/22/2016 8:54:06 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: NYer

America supports baby killing. Go baby killer hillary!


20 posted on 10/22/2016 8:57:36 AM PDT by Leep (Just say no to half dead hillary and wrong lane kaine!)
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