Posted on 09/27/2016 6:41:19 AM PDT by xzins
We can discuss the polls to determine the victor from last night, and we'd be left with a huge number that say Trump won and a few that say Clinton won. Or, we could look at little, non-scientific groups that networks gather called focus groups and we can wonder how any American doesn't realize that a dozen people isn't even vaguely representative of the 320 million Americans. Americans aren't that stupid. Sadly, the media thinks we are.
We can look a demeanor, and we'll note the deer-in-the-headlights look of Clinton for the first two-thirds of the debate, or we'll note the ruddy complexion of Donald Trump when he's making a point.
Rightly, we can note that the moderator was less than professional last night. He thought it was a Big Time Wrestling event, and scripted one of those episodes where the referee jumps into the fight to bash one and help the other. As usual, the liberal referee jumped to the aid of the liberal candidate. If it were football, Holt has been flagged for Holting Trump who was rushing the diminutive quarterback of the other team.
All that aside, the real issue of last night's debate was the economy. Trump cleaned up on the economy against his opponent. But, in the midst of all that Clinton lied. It's her nature, but we've come to recognize in our many years of dealing with her distant relationship to the truth that Clinton lies about things she's hiding.
She's hiding her support of another job killing trade agreement as bad as or worse than the NAFTA that has taken countless jobs and businesses from America and moved them to Mexico. She's hiding her support of TPP...the Trans Pacific Partnership.
Trump pointed out that Clinton has called TPP the gold standard. She loved it. She promoted it. And up until recently she was a strong advocate of it with her boss, Barack Obama.
This country has lost billions of dollars to NAFTA, CAFTA, KORUS, and other insider deals involving the WTO, big banks, and global businesses. We've lost jobs. We've lost entire communities.
But the word on the street is that TPP could destroy what remains of the entire middle class in America as businesses are given cost free incentives to move jobs to Asian countries that pay slave wages to a few dollars an hour.
The truth is that those low wages in Asia will cause DOWNWARD pressure on American wages. Jobs that remain here will be competing with wages as low as those in depression America. That will not cause American wages to rise. It will force them down. It will force them down to what we consider poverty levels.
Poverty waged families are NOT middle class. Be honest. They are poverty class. Workers live a hand to mouth existence, and they scrape to have enough from one week to the next even to support their families.
From her own position as Secretary of State Clinton wrote This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field. This is not some newspaper quote. This is a release that SHE wrote from the Department of State. https://www.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2012/11/200565.htm
In that same letter she gave insight into her thinking: what we're trying to do...globalization...which is inevitable... she wrote.
Hillary Clinton is fine with globalism, that is, the impoverishing of Americans until they descend to the economic level of the rest of the world. After all, doesn't Clinton own and operate Clinton Global Initiatives?
Clinton's close friend, Terry McAuliffe had this to say about Clinton's switch from TPP supporter to campaign opponent of TPP: I worry that if we dont do TPP, at some point Chinas going to break the rules but Hillary understands this, he said in an interview after his speech on the main stage at the Democratic National Convention. Once the elections over, and we sit down on trade, people understand a couple things we want to fix on it but going forward we got to build a global economy. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/terry-mcauliffe-hillary-clinton-tpp-trade-226253
It's another lie. She lied about switching to opposition to TPP, and last night she lied about even her own state department paper that she wrote when she called TPP The Gold Standard.
Hillary Clinton intends to take American jobs. She is an establishment type whose vast wealth has been made as a politician on a salary of $180,000 a year. Yet, somehow she's worth $200,000,000 million by some writers. Her foundation is said to be worth billions. Impossible on a $180,000 a year salary. We all know it.
No friend of Trump, the Huffington Post wrote about TPP:
This agreement includes Australia, Brunei, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam to start. Eventually, its advocates hope, it will include every nation on the Pacific rim, including Indonesia, the Philippines, Japan, Mexico, Russia, and China.Yes, you read that right. China. America is on track for a free-trade agreement with its most voracious mercantilist trade rival.
As Ive explained before, international trade isn'tt just harmony, its largely rivalry, and mercantilism is how the winners play to win. But we naively refuse to play that game. Instead, we have faith in free trade, we think free-trade agreements will save us, and we lose.
And if the purely trade aspects weren'tt bad enough, the TPP is also a profoundly anti-democratic agreement which signs away our right to govern our own economy. Despite being nominally a trade agreement, it contains provisions which interfere with areas well beyond the bounds of trade. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-fletcher/the-transpacific-partners_5_b_8246364.html
So, last night Hillary Clinton directly lied to the American worker about her past support. And her lie on this point calls into question everything else she has said about TPP.
She is out to take your job. She will have it disappear overseas, she will undersell it, she will have you train your replacement, she will bring in illegal aliens to take it, and she will be safe and secure with her 200 million dollars she made on a government job. Somehow.
Make no mistake. The American Worker lost in last night's Hillary debate. And if the American Worker is informed, then all those lives affected will declare Hillary "TPP" Clinton, the loser of last night's debate.
If Hillary is elected, the American worker lost last night’s debate.
NOW ISN'T THIS INTERESTING? few, if any, of the RCEP
and TPP countries contributed to the buck-raking Clinton Foundation.
Looks like the Clintons and Obama divvied up the globe so that each have their own countries in order to collect big buck get-rich-quick foundation donations, honorarium, cosultancies, and int'l insider business deals.
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THE FACTS ARE THESE Obama's trade deal giveaway is a huge scam...best examined against the backdrop of Obama's two tax-exempt foundations (two-that we know of).
Obama's priming the pump for donations to his two Foundations.
All of Obama's thinly-veiled actions....
(1) promoting fast-track TPA and TPP,
(2) his refugee/immigration suck-ups
(3) his non-action WRT ISIS, IRAN....
.....are best understood against the backdrop of Obama's future get-rich-quick plans as an ex-president----more specifically, his two get-rich-quick Foundations (two foundations that we know of).
All the Muslim entities control billions of dollars---and Obama is lying-in-wait for his share: foreign donations, lucrative insider trade deals from untapped resources, energy deals, telecom deals, arms sales, consultancies, million dollar honorarium...and so on and so forth.
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WIKI REFERENCE: Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) is a proposed free trade agreement (FTA) between the ten member states of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) (Brunei, Burma (Myanmar), Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam) and the six states with which ASEAN has existing FTAs (Australia, China, India, Japan, South Korea and New Zealand). RCEP negotiations were formally launched in November 2012.
The sad fact is that the majority of Hillary supporters do not know, or care, what TPP is or what it does.
You start talking about the alphabet soup of trade deals and people’s eyes glaze over. This is the same reason Clinton gets no jail time. They make her crimes sound overly complicated and most people immediately lose interest.
Those who vote indicate by that act that they sense a responsibility.
That suggests to me that they can be informed.
excellent links
That’s why you talk about it in terms of jobs, businesses moving overseas, and bad trade deals.
Trump has been just a tad successful with that approach.
Excellent info, Liz. Thanks!!
Thanks for posting info/links.
Trump is right again TPP is almost as bad as NAFTA.And Hillary lied and flip flopped on it exactly as Trump said.
Trump nailed Hillary when he said NAFTA was the worst trade deal ever . He’s right again. And Her husband Clinton sighed NAFTA which started America’s companies leaving the USA.
The media nor politicians never covers any of these real issues.
Also another major thing Trump is right again on is
Trump is right again when Trump said that the Federal Reserve has become political and that the stock market WILL CRASH the minute the Fed raises interest rates above near zero where they have held them for many years to keep the stock market propped up artificially to make Obama look good
. The federal reserve has been keeping interests rates near zero for many years to make Obama look good . As soon as they raise the interest rates above near zero the stock market will crash. Keep your money out of the stock market. people will start putting money in other things beside the stock market. Only trump knows this . Most Americans have no clue and the media lies .
This is never mentioned by the communist mainstream media. the media only keeps pounding on really important issues to the media like inflate-gate of NFL football and the lie of white police officers killing black people and a million other lies and distractions from how the world really works(another example Venezuela no coverage = socialism doesnt work)
TPP will kill the American middle class.
I’m a little vague about this but didn’t she, in the CIC forum say we would NEVER put troops on the ground in Iraq to fight Isis, but last night mention troops in Iraq?
I welcome comments from those who followed that more closely
I don’t recall that.
There’s a transcript posted on FR. Let’s search it.
, Check my post on Trump's comment on the federal reserve and the stock market crashing after they raise rates which they have to eventually above near zero.. The stock market is high because of the fed holding rates for many years to help Obama. Look it up. I've learned more from Trump's last debate than from decades of government schools gov funded colleges and the mainstream media brainwashing called “News”
I guarantee that if a republican wins the election that the Fed will allow the rate to rise a point a quarter. The market will crash, and there will be a recession.
If Hillary wins, they will continue to prop up the stock market.
A crash is inevitable anyway, because it’s a fake market, so reality will eventually catch up.
However, would you rather have a builder in charge at that time or a thief?
I’ll choose the builder.
Yes exactly . That is the plan. The Fed is political as Trump said last nite . What percentage of inflat-gate Americans last night understand what Trump said about the FED? My guess is a very low percentage
I think the FED is hard to understand for those who understand it. They intentionally speak in a technical language and that shrouds much of what they decide.
The bottom line for me is whether they are raising or lowering, buying, spending, or ‘re-investing’.
And I’ve barely got a hold on those. :>)
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