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Did the Famous Sailor Sexually Assault the Famous Nurse?
Townhall.com ^ | September 20, 2016 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 09/20/2016 4:59:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

The most famous American photo of World War II is undoubtedly that of the four Marines planting the American flag on Iwo Jima. The second most famous is probably the legendary photographer Alfred Eisenstaedt's picture of an American sailor kissing a nurse in Times Square in New York City, when people were celebrating Japan's surrender.

The kiss was not, of course, merely a peck on the cheek. If it were, no photo would have been taken. And if one were, no one would have remembered it. The sailor clearly grabbed the nurse. She is leaning backward, bent at the waist; he is holding her up with both hands around her waist.

The photo has been back in the news because the woman, identified as Greta Zimmer Friedman, died on Sept. 8, at age 92. She was 21 when the picture was taken.

The sailor, later identified as George Mendonsa, mistook Friedman's dental assistant uniform for that of a nurse. He later explained that he hugged and kissed her because of his overwhelming gratitude for the work nurses had performed while he was in combat in the Navy, because of his elation over the war ending and because he had had a few drinks. As he put it, when he and Friedman were reunited in 2012 at the spot of their kiss, it was "the excitement of the war bein' over, plus I had a few drinks, so when I saw the nurse I grabbed her, and I kissed her."

Any American who looks at that photo today realizes just how different a time we live in.

If a man were to do that to a woman today, he would likely be charged with sexual assault, found guilty, be ordered to pay a serious sum of money to the woman, be sent to prison, be civilly sued and be labeled a sex offender -- effectively ruining much of his life.

She, on the other hand, would be regarded as victim of sexual assault and labelled a survivor, and would seek psychological counseling.

Living in pre-feminist darkness, Friedman did not see it this way. As her son told the New York Daily News, "My mom always had an appreciation for a feminist viewpoint, and understood the premise that you don't have a right to be intimate with a stranger on the street. ...(But) she didn't assign any bad motives to George in that circumstance, that situation, that time."

One reason might be that she was a Jewish refugee from Hitler's Europe, and, unlike feminists in America, she knew real evil.

Given the context, the act was essentially innocent. Reinforcing its innocence are the facts that the kiss was very brief and Mendonsa's wife can be seen smiling in the background.

But in the feminist age of enlightenment in which we live, when it comes to any act of physical intimacy by a man with a woman, there is no such thing as "context." Unless there is a verbal "yes" accompanying every act by the man, the presumption is that the intimacy was a sexual assault, a form of rape.

Thus, in today's America, George Mendonsa is deemed to have committed an act of sexual assault. Context has no say.

On the Sarasota, Florida, waterfront there is a 28-foot statue of Mendonsa kissing Friedman. It clearly offends at least one Sarasota Herald-Tribune columnist. A few days after Friedman's death, Chris Anderson acknowledged that the statue "represents euphoria, innocence, romance, nostalgia and a level of unity and pride this country arguably has not seen since V-J Day." But as a someone who surely attended college and probably graduate school, he sees the darker side, saying, "Is it possible that thousands upon thousands of people over the last seven years have come to the Sarasota waterfront to unwittingly pose in front of a giant depiction of a sexual assault?"

Likewise, the writer of the New York Times obituary of Friedman felt compelled to note that "In recent years, some have noted its darker undertones." Among the examples cited was Time Magazine, which in 2014 had written, "many people view the photo as little more than the documentation of a very public sexual assault, and not something to be celebrated."

There is no question that there needed to be greater sensitivity to men's physical interactions with women, and that too many men did in fact get away with rape.

But America is not a better place -- nor, for that matter, are American women happier -- because we now consider George Mendonsa a sexual criminal and Greta Friedman a survivor of sexual assault.

For most Americans, America was -- with all the flaws that did indeed have to be dealt with -- a happier and more innocent place then. That's why there is a statue of that kiss at the Sarasota waterfront. And that's why "thousands upon thousands" of couples pose for pictures in front of it.

They are celebrating life, America, and men and women. At college, American kids are taught to fear all three.


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1 posted on 09/20/2016 4:59:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The most famous American photo of World War II is undoubtedly that of the four Marines planting the American flag on Iwo Jima.

5 Marines and 1 sailor.

2 posted on 09/20/2016 5:05:06 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Kaslin
< If a man were to do that to a woman today, he would likely be charged with sexual assault, found guilty, be ordered to pay a serious sum of money to the woman, be sent to prison, be civilly sued and be labeled a sex offender -- effectively ruining much of his life.

Mainly due to greed IMO. Our society has turned wicked due in part to greedy lawyers and people with narcisstic disorders.

3 posted on 09/20/2016 5:05:54 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

“They are celebrating life, America, and men and women. At college, American kids are taught to fear all three.”

At first I counted four, but then thought about the Fraud’s emasculation of America, so excellent writing, Dennis Prager.


4 posted on 09/20/2016 5:05:56 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: jsanders2001

You forgot mandatory re-programming classes !


5 posted on 09/20/2016 5:08:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but, they're true ... and it pisses people off)
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To: rjsimmon

Hmm, Wikipedia counted 6 Marines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima


6 posted on 09/20/2016 5:08:41 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Kaslin
Must we always take every single issue and turn it into something it is not?

When will this revisionist idiocy stop?

Reanalyzing everything and looking for some kind of hidden evil is a pathological manifestation of a decadent and bored society.

7 posted on 09/20/2016 5:09:12 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Kaslin
A kiss is not sex.

8 posted on 09/20/2016 5:14:02 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

They are incorrect. Navy Corpsman John Bradley was in the mix.


9 posted on 09/20/2016 5:14:16 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Kaslin
"One reason might be that she was a Jewish refugee from Hitler's Europe, and, unlike feminists in America, she knew real evil."

There's the money shot right there. Not this psuedo-assault micro-aggression that sends today's precious snowflakes running to their 'safe spaces'... REAL evil.

The ability to recognize it has been coddled out of our self-esteem and trophy-rich youth.

10 posted on 09/20/2016 5:14:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: Kaslin

I remember as a kid in 1975, a friend of mine streaked thru a Roy Rogers and a McDonald’s on different days and nobody did a thing but laugh. Today, he’d be behind bars.


11 posted on 09/20/2016 5:16:45 AM PDT by albie
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To: Kaslin

A sexual assault is rape. There was no rape in that picture.

A kiss is not rape.

Vast numbers of “Americans” today are not worthy of the suffering and sacrifice made by so many during World War II.

I’m tired of revisionist history.


12 posted on 09/20/2016 5:17:29 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)
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To: treetopsandroofs

OK, 6 Marines on the second flag raising, and a non-tallied count on the first flag raising, including “Others involved with the first flag-raising include Cpl. Charles W. Lindberg, Pfc. James Michels, Pfc. Raymond Jacobs, Pvt. Phil Ward, and Navy corpsman John Bradley.”

So the sailor’s there on the first raising, but it doesn’t specify a count.

“Raising the First Flag on Iwo Jima by SSgt. Louis R. Lowery, USMC, is the most widely circulated photograph of the first flag flown on Mt. Suribachi (after the flag raising).
Left to right: 1st Lt. Harold Schrier[7] (kneeling behind radioman’s legs), Pfc. Raymond Jacobs (radioman reassigned from F Company), Sgt. Henry “Hank” Hansen wearing cap, holding flagstaff with left hand), Platoon Sgt. Ernest “Boots” Thomas (seated), Pvt. Phil Ward (holding lower flagstaff with both hands), PhM2c. John Bradley, USN (holding flagstaff with right hand above Ward), Pfc. James Michels (holding M1 Carbine), and Cpl. Charles W. Lindberg (standing above Michels).”

Wikipedia listed 8 on the first raising, including the sailor.


13 posted on 09/20/2016 5:18:54 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Kaslin
and, unlike feminists in America, she knew real evil.

When one hasn't really had serious threats to deal with, I suppose one makes up all kinds of paper tigers and straw men to slay. Instead of actual warriors, now we have SJW's, which are produced at universities instead of boot camps.

14 posted on 09/20/2016 5:19:56 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Netz

It will stop when the re education camps that were once our great universities are shuttered, fumigated, cleansed of all the America hating vermin and repopulated with true educators.


15 posted on 09/20/2016 5:23:18 AM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Kaslin
Assuming that that sailor had already seen combat and/or he had been anticipating seeing combat in the storming of the Japanese homeland it's easy to see how he would have been beside himself with joy.Would I have ever done anything like that? No.Was this “sexual assault”? Under the circumstances I'd say no.Under different circumstances....possibly.
16 posted on 09/20/2016 5:25:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proud Member Of The "Basket Of Deplorables")
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To: albie

—had he done that in the ‘50’s where I grew up in Wisconsin, you would have been “sent to Mendota”—the state mental hospital—for a couple of weeks observation to see if you were safe to rejoin decent society—


17 posted on 09/20/2016 5:25:59 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Kaslin

She looks pretty happy to me.


18 posted on 09/20/2016 5:28:32 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: Kaslin

Bump!


19 posted on 09/20/2016 5:30:24 AM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

IIRC, he had seen combat. His tin can had been shot to hell, and he’d seen the navy nurses tend to his surviving shipmates.

He was on leave, awaiting a new assignment I imagine. Was damn happy to be alive, the war over a greatfull to the nurses.


20 posted on 09/20/2016 5:34:38 AM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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