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Amelia Earhart made contact with radio operators for days after her plane went down
News.com.au ^ | September 10, 2016

Posted on 09/10/2016 4:34:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

DID Amelia Earhart survive her plane crash? This is the most likely theory, with evidence emerging that she was making contact for days after her plane disappeared.

The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) believes Earhart safely landed her plane when it disappeared in 1937 and died as a castaway.

During a presentation in the US last month, TIGHAR’s Ric Gillespie backed up all of the group’s theories.

Earhart’s plane was last seen on the radar on July 2, 1937.

After becoming the first woman pilot to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean, she embarked on a mission to fly 47,000km around the world.

But on July 2 1937, four months after beginning her trip, she found herself in trouble.

She was flying at 375m looking for Howland Island, southwest of Honolulu, but was low on fuel.

It is believed she was not as close to the island as expected so she safety landed on another island, believed to be Nikumaroro, also known as Gardner Island, which is surrounded by a reef and about 640km southeast of Howland Island.

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KEYWORDS: 1937; ameliaearhart; aviation; earhart; frednoonan; godsgravesglyphs; nonsense; noonan; radar; tighar
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Their most accurate nav aid would have been sunrise. With a good chronometer (not unusual at the time, esp for someone trained in maritime celestial navigation) position at sunrise would give them the longitude line of their position.

From there, using DR&P, they would have the longitude of their destination. Just have to determine the latitude (which they failed to do).

In previous “spats” over position with her navigator, AH would always make a right turn when she felt they were lost. If she did this on the last leg, it would point her toward Nikumaroro Island.


81 posted on 09/11/2016 7:04:06 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Rockpile

TIGHAR has conducted 10 search missions with very little to show for it. Last “search” seemed more like a cruise ship journey. However, perhaps the next one (July ‘17) with submersibles will yield something. Or maybe rule out Gardner Is. as crash site? No plane no crash?


82 posted on 09/11/2016 8:32:43 AM PDT by donozark (My thoughts are not very deep. But they are of and inquisitive nature.)
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To: wally_bert

LOL


83 posted on 09/11/2016 12:45:03 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Radar was under development, especially in the UK in 37 and had been used very experimentally in directing naval gunfire. But the idea that a USCGC in the South Pacific would have a working radar set is absolutely a fantasy.


84 posted on 09/11/2016 9:47:14 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: wrench

With a keen knowledge wave shapes and the sky, early peoples crossed the Pacific to South America.

Columbus had a compass and quadrant, he found the Bahamas, with topless native girls!
You just know he will find his way back; repeatedly.

Lindbergh had an induction compass, watch, clock and maps.
Head east to coastline, check maps head to Paris.

Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan had all usual aids and early radio direction finding equipment.
But their destination was fly speck, proving yet again that”Fate is the hunter” (That Gann guy made me write that!)

What is DR&P?


85 posted on 09/12/2016 9:00:38 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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86 posted on 09/12/2016 7:23:00 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: DUMBGRUNT

DR&P = dead reckoning and pilotage.


87 posted on 09/12/2016 7:28:20 PM PDT by wrench
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan had all usual aids and early radio direction finding equipment.

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Their radio equipment wasn’t compatible with the radio on the ship. Noonan had an inaccurate map, and their clock was set to a different time than the clock on the ship. Earhart was a lucky daredevil and her luck finally ran out.


88 posted on 09/12/2016 7:52:24 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: xkaydet65

We didn’t have RADAR until the British gave it to us due to the fall of France to the Germans.


89 posted on 09/12/2016 7:56:02 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: skimbell

LOL, that movie is one of my guilty pleasures!


90 posted on 09/12/2016 8:11:15 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: skimbell

Now that is a movie that could use a reboot


91 posted on 09/12/2016 8:12:10 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta (It's time for Trump to become Vlad the Impaler. I want Progressive/Globalist/Establishment heads)
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To: henkster

A bit bogus. eh??


92 posted on 09/12/2016 8:18:47 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sparklite2

Damn sure not long range radar in the middle of the Pacific.


93 posted on 09/12/2016 8:20:05 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: DesertRhino

In 1931 Pangborn and Herndon flew from Japan to Wenatchee, WA. nonstop. They were on a round the world record attempt but were arrested for spying when they arrived in Tokyo for taking movies of the area before the landing. They were held for a month before the embassy got them released. They decided to do the Pacific non-stop as a Jap newspaper was offering $ 25,000 to the first ones to do it. The Japanese told them they would be shot down if they came back to Japan. Pangborn modified the Belanca to drop the landing gear after take-off to cut wind resistance. Took 41 hours and they landed at Wenatchee because Seattle was fogged in. He bellied the plane in on a grassy field and the bent prop is in a museum in Wenatchee. The Belanca was sold to a guy who tried to fly from New York to Rome with a woman dressed as a nurse to honor the nurses of The Great War. She supposed to parachute into Rome but the plane crashed somewhere off of Spain.


94 posted on 09/12/2016 9:51:44 PM PDT by alpo (Resist we much)
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To: henkster
Last seen on radar in 1937?

Yeah, not likely...
95 posted on 09/12/2016 9:53:58 PM PDT by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Reily
We have a winner....radio and radar, similar. There was no radar coverage of the pacific until satellites. I had to radio position reports, in the 1990’s, to Oakland Oceanic Control.
96 posted on 09/13/2016 4:40:08 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: henkster

Actually, the author misspoke. The last known position of Amelia’s aircraft was spotted by geosynchronous satellite.


97 posted on 09/13/2016 4:42:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: DesertRhino
Way back when, it was stressed that a 1 degree error in heading would make a 1 mile error at sixty miles. Increase that error by only a few more degrees and, with the huge expanse of the Pacific, you will miss your target by a distance greater than you could ever hope to see. Was Noonan using celestial navigation/sun lines? Dead Reckoning? Did Noonan and Earhart leave records of their navigation plans? Were predicted winds aloft accurate or just “ball park” figures? The chances are great that they had to ditch at sea and no trace of them will never be found.
98 posted on 09/13/2016 4:52:02 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: FreedomPoster
I don't know about that...the B747 might have had a sextant port in the ceiling of the cockpit but the thing that held the port open was the sextant itself. He would have to propped the hole open with a small stick. Also, the normal rate of air exchange in the cockpit would limit the amount of smoke in the air. Makes a good story but who knows???
Celestial navigation is a fascinating subject. The difficulty with airborne CN is that the motion of the observer must be compensated for. Easy on a ship, harder when moving at 480 kts.
Read the book, “Longitude.” The Harrison Clock, on display at the British Maritime Museum in Greenwich, UK, saved countless lives of British Sailors because CN depends on knowing the correct time.
99 posted on 09/13/2016 5:09:40 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: henkster

Yes. Brian Williams was the operator.


100 posted on 09/13/2016 5:15:41 AM PDT by Rebelbase (I am deplorable.)
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