Air Passengers Warned Not To Use Galaxy Note 7 (fire hazard)

skynews.com ^ | 09 September 2016

[rdl6989]

Airline passengers should not turn on or charge their Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphones during flights or stow them in checked baggage, US aviation officials have said.

The warning comes a week after Samsung suspended Note 7 sales, following reports that a battery problem led to some devices catching fire during charging.

[rdl6989]

Ping. You may find this of interest.

[RayChuang88]

If the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) announces a mandatory recall, it's immediate curtains for the Galaxy Note 7--Samsung cannot even sell the phones with the fixed battery pack in the USA, and that may prompt European Union regulators to do the same.

Samsung should just admit defeat, recall and destroy every Galaxy Note 7 produced, re-engineer the battery pack and charging circuits and re-release the new, fixed model in January 2017.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

The new Android Firestarter App is a new Galaxy 7 feature.

It’s hard to be misunderstood.

[Swordmaker]

If the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) announces a mandatory recall, it's immediate curtains for the Galaxy Note 7--Samsung cannot even sell the phones with the fixed battery pack in the USA, and that may prompt European Union regulators to do the same.

Samsung elected to not go through normal, required by law, consumer protection channels and do an "in house" recall of the 2.5 million Galaxy Note 7 already shipped. They did not say actually sold, they said "shipped," so some of those are merely in the channel waiting to be sold. Those will be easy, if not inexpensive, to recall. Finding all the buyers is not easy and certainly not inexpensive.

[Swordmaker]

Ping. You may find this of interest.

I think it is more important to bring it to the Android Ping list's members attention. That's run by ThunderSleeps.

Thanks for thinking of me, though.

[minnesota_bound]

Maybe they will dump the inability to replace the battery easily.
They glued the back on and the battery inside. This guy used a hot plate to replace the battery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGcBy-ET4mY

Imagine how easy the it would be if the battery if they did not glue everything!
How less costly it would be! They want you to buy a $500 to $1,000 phone over a approx $15 battery! http://tinyurl.com/gvsjkl4

My LG3 back and the battery just pops out. No glue.
Easy to replace the battery if needed.

[CodeToad]

Sadly, somewhere, there is an engineer who is saying, “I told ya so, you freaking MBA morons.”

[Bratch]

Sadly, somewhere, there is an engineer  a line worker who is saying [to an engineer], “I told ya so, you freaking MBA morons.”

Fixed.

[ThunderSleeps]

Saw nearly that exact thing back in the late 1980s. A technician with decades of experience and kids older than the engineer tried to tell this guy it wasn't going to work. His exact words I will remember forever: "I engineer, you technician, you do as I say!" (English was a second language to the engineer) Well, as expected it was ah "non-functional" ... yeah, let's just call it that. No-one was hurt by it anyway...

Humbling for this young engineer just out of school even though I was just a witness to the comedy/tragedy. Taught me to respect good ideas, no matter where they come from. The engineer starring in the little drama however didn't learn that lesson. He didn't last too long, I think maybe 4 or 5 months IIRC.

[ThunderSleeps]

For any of you Galaxy Note 7 users - ANDROID PING!
Android Ping! If you want on or off the Android Ping List, Freepmail me.

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Aside from air travel I'd be cautious about using the phone anywhere where ventilation and the ability to put some distance between myself and the phone was going to be a problem. I'm sure Samsung will fix it, but until then be careful fellow 'drods!

[rdl6989]

Thanks, I can never keep track of who runs which lists.

[Sawdring]

My Galaxy Note 7 has worked flawlessly. Although, I don’t see a big improvement over the Note 4 that I had.

[Sawdring]

Engineers Vs. mechanics. The age old battle, the age old symbiosis. You can’t have one without the other!

[CodeToad]

A line worker? Yeah, OK, like they know about such thing s as chemical and electrical engineering because working the line is soooo much better.

[Bratch]

I worked on the launch team at one of the Ford Plants.

When we were building prototypes, occasionally we would try to explain that a new part would be nearly impossible to install at the line speed that was required. The engineers generally ignored us, but when we’d get back to the plant, an extra body would be required to attach the part without shutting the line down.

It’s a lot different installing a part on a CAD program than it is on the assembly line.

[GingisK]

I had no idea that a cell phone could be charged while in checked baggage.

[BunnySlippers]

Sounds like the Hover Boards. I wanted one. But if they are going to burn the house down ...

[SoCal Pubbie]

Not exactly the same situation, but an old family story told to me years ago is an example in a similar vein. My late aunt worked for Convair, or perhaps a forerunner company later part of that firm, in San Diego back in the 1960s. She did soldering of circuit boards, a task largely done by women because they tended to have greater manual dexterity and touch. Anyway, they were having problems with failure of a certain component, and the engineers couldn't figure it out. Finally my aunt, with no technical training or aptitude at all, spoke up. It was her opinion that the resistors, transistors, etc. were soldered on too tight to the board.

They engineers went to work, developed a spacer to use during soldering, and there were no more problems.

[Bratch]

That was my point.

When you assemble 500+ units a day, you gain knowledge through osmosis. Even a novice becomes an expert after a few years.

Generally, the engineers overseeing the project are experienced pros, but many times the ones designing new components are newbies, either recently graduated or brought in from another company. So an experienced hourly worker can provide valuable perspective, if the engineers are willing to accept input.

A lot of them do. But sometimes, when they don’t, it can cause major problems.