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To: detective

This policy is ridiculous, but standardized tests have their role. Without them, every parent is told their children are geniuses by teachers with a vested interest in promulgating the lie; standardized tests let parents sift through the BS and see how their children really stack up.

When you work with ‘hoodrats with COLLEGE DEGREES that are functional illiterates, you’ll understand the appeal of a test that would stop that charade in its tracks...


3 posted on 08/13/2016 5:13:24 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
When you work with ‘hoodrats with COLLEGE DEGREES that are functional illiterates, you’ll understand the appeal of a test that would stop that charade in its tracks...

Which is why inner-city teachers and administrators have repeatedly been caught helping kids cheat the tests.

6 posted on 08/13/2016 5:21:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: kearnyirish2

“standardized tests have their role”

Achievement is important, but so is testing. Without measurement, there is no achievement.

It is a good thing these special snowflakes don’t go to private schools, they would implode when they find out they have to be tested weekly!


7 posted on 08/13/2016 5:23:34 AM PDT by wrench
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To: kearnyirish2
every parent is told their children are geniuses by teachers

I wish my teachers hadn't done that. They blew my "I can't understand" excuse for not doing homework right out the window.

14 posted on 08/13/2016 5:32:40 AM PDT by ASA Vet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Assuming there is sanity behind the standardized testing.

In general, home schooling, which doesn’t need to use many standards beyond which the parents choose, has been shown to lead to objectively better results in earthly competition. There are a number of variables in this picture.


15 posted on 08/13/2016 5:34:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: kearnyirish2
When you work with ‘hoodrats with COLLEGE DEGREES that are functional illiterates, you’ll understand the appeal of a test that would stop that charade in its tracks...

I've dealt with them. I have also worked with dropouts that were more intelligent than their "So-called" educated bosses.


34 posted on 08/13/2016 6:00:43 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes, standardized test would have a place if they were created to a useful standard. I am an educator and I detest what our schools have become. Part of the problem is that conservatives and Constitutionalist, like myself, have given up on the system and left it to the liberal progressives and communist. There are a few “right-wing” educators left in our schools but we are so few it is hard to make changes. Parents must help effect change in the system by refusing to send their children to these broken institutions. Also, we need more “right-wingers”,like myself, to enter education and help force the change.


36 posted on 08/13/2016 6:07:54 AM PDT by Xenodamus (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -TJ)
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To: kearnyirish2
Because the receipt of federal dollars is at stake unless 95 percent of students participate in standardized testing, test participation is treated as more important than actual performance.

Follow the [federal] money. The Florida school system is incompetent and seriously corrupt administratively and academically. I speak from first hand experience. Virtually no part of it is any way to judge a child's true level of learning.

40 posted on 08/13/2016 6:17:54 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: kearnyirish2

“When you work with ‘hoodrats with COLLEGE DEGREES that are functional illiterates, you’ll understand the appeal of a test that would stop that charade in its tracks”...

It’s been true for more than a decade in Flori-DUH...I recall the fuss LONG ago when the ‘teachers’ that were produced by our ‘education schools’ couldn’t pass the exam....Answer ? Lower the required scores to get a qualifying grade !

So we get unqualified folks teaching our kids to this day !


44 posted on 08/13/2016 6:27:36 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: kearnyirish2

Your point is good in theory, and would work in a home school environment, but even kids that flunk the tests are still promoted. The test would only be valuable if it was used for a purpose that benefitted the child, instead of the wallets of the test companies.


55 posted on 08/13/2016 6:56:59 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: kearnyirish2

Funny how only AFTER we had Marxist”standardized testing” (one size fits all—top down) that we have a bunch of illeterates who are so extremely DUMB and devoid of any Common Sense and any self-reliance. They also are devoid of virtue and “think” killing babies and sodomizing each other is a Natural Right from God.

We need to QUIT THE TESTING—go back to LOCAL controls and TEACHERS having autonomy like before Dewey. If they can’t tell how much their students “know”, the parents should be able to run them out of town like they did prior to Dewey and the destruction of parent’s control over education of their OWN children.

Hint: Aristotle (father of logic) stated that without Virtue there is no Freedom possible and Dostoevsky stated that “Without God, everything is permissible”-—that means incest, bestiality and sodomizing others like what todays graduates are indulging in with more frequency (because that is what they are learning in skools today-—Vice is Virtue.)

All UNESCO’s today’s “tests” are to force children into a Marxist, Neo-Freudian (anti-Christian, anti-Western Civ) worldview where “thinking critically” (reason and logic) will be destroyed. The tests are designed with psychological damaging “questions” which destroy Reason and Logic and embed cognitive dissonance-—which all Common Core curricula now does permanently.

All the “testing” will give the psychopathic sodomites (who designed the “testing”), the ability to assess the psychology and morality of the children—who are going to be their human-killing drones for the future. They target children who have some measure of morality—to destroy all morality (so they are capable of being in their SS army and will participate in the NWO Fema camps).

Any rational, moral person would NEVER allow government “skools” to “educate” their children. Prussian artificial indoctrination systems are why we have evil zombies (dumb, ignorant, inhumane “bots”) graduating from colleges today. After years of the brainwashing and removal from Reality, understanding Reality and being Self Reliant is impossible—real life human interaction wasn’t embedded inside the Natural Family (mom/dad/paradigm) where the REAL “education” and understanding of Truth and Self and all relationships is embedded into the subconscious, only self-reliance and individualism is embedded along with Free Will inside the moral Natural Family ONLYl.

John Dewey, the “Father of American Modern Education, signed the Humanist Manifesto and was a communist. Do you really “think” the curricula (designed by the likes of him and Billy Ayers-types) will educate when Socrates knew 2400 years ago that the State will never educate, it will just make slaves for the State.

Google Fichte, 1810 and “snow is black” quote. ALL curricula now is designed to intentionally destroy Free Will and make children so irrational they actually believe Slavery is Freedom, Boys are Girls and Up is Down.
The “Tests” make sure the “kids” mastered the lessons of insanity.

This is for the NWO-—AI. There can be no critically thinking people-—all of Western Civ has to be vilified and erased in the minds of children to get Fichte’s “happy slaves of the State (and corporations).


65 posted on 08/13/2016 7:19:12 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: kearnyirish2

“Stack up against?” Common core is nothing more than a data mining grab. . . .womb to the tomb information kept in a cloud. Technology coordinators in the districts were instrumental in the system. Parents, who are really concerned about their children’s success in school should already know how they are doing. The common core has done nothing but desecrate our education system. Its co-founder even admits that the common core was to level the playing field for the illiterate. Do the search! Also it serves as a money grab for test publishers not to mention Federal control over local school districts.


77 posted on 08/13/2016 8:18:13 AM PDT by Maudeen (Sinner Saved by Grace)
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To: kearnyirish2

The tests are a response to the kids who graduated high school functionally illiterate, kids with A averages at graduation with 8th grade skill sets.


84 posted on 08/13/2016 10:39:12 AM PDT by tbw2
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