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United States et al. vs. Texas et al.: A Political Question for November
verdict.justia.com ^ | 7/1/2016 | John Dean

Posted on 07/01/2016 8:52:34 AM PDT by Elderberry

In a nine-word per curiam decision, eight justices of the United States Supreme Court have revealed they are deadlocked in a 4 to 4 divide on the new immigration procedures of the Obama administration, with its executive decision to not deport the immigrant parents of children born in the United States (thus citizens) and give them legal status but less than citizenship in the process. The State of Texas, joined by 25 others states, filed a lawsuit to block this executive action, which affects between 4 and 5 million immigrants in the United States. The case was before the Supreme Court because implementation of this new immigration policy was preliminarily enjoined at the request of the 26 states by the United States District Court in Texas, an action approved by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, which was appealed to the Supreme Court by the Obama administration.

This fully briefed case includes over two dozen amicus briefs because of the interest in the fate of so many millions of people; it was argued before the Supreme Court on April 18, 2016, some two months after Justice Antonin Scalia’s death left the vacancy on the court. On June 23, 2016, the divided and deadlocked Court ruled: “The [lower court] judgment is affirmed by an equally divided Court.” The case now returns to the District Court in Texas for a trial, which has been largely determined based on the appeals, however. Nonetheless, it will proceed.

In fact, there are solid legal arguments on both sides of the legal issues. We do not know for certain the basis of the division at the Supreme Court, but the lower court actions raised issues of the standing of Texas (and other states) to bring such an action; the justiciability of the issues being susceptible to resolution by federal courts; whether the Obama Administration should have followed, but failed to, the provisions of the Administrative Procedures Act; and whether President Obama violated the Constitution in failing to “take care” that the immigration laws were faithfully enforced.

For those interested these issues, they arose first at the district court level, where Judge Andrew Hanen wrote an extensive—and beyond the norm of typical trial court scholarship—analysis on the question of standing. He did not address either the “take care” or justiciability issues. Rather he found that Texas did have standing because of the impact the new status of immigrants would have under Obama’s program on the cost of issuing driver’s licenses in Texas. It was the dissents at the Fifth Circuit that raised the question of justiciability, first in Judge Higginson’s dissent when addressing the government’s request to stay the District Court’s ruling, and then by Judge King’s dissent (which drew on Judge Higginson’s work) when denying the government’s appeal of the District Court’s injunction. While Texas raised the “take care” issue, neither the district nor appellate courts addressed it. The nine-word per curiam holding of the Supreme Court does not reveal who fell where on any of the issues before the Court, but this is not very difficult to surmise.

This case has been conspicuously political from the outset. The twenty-six states, the plaintiffs who filed the initial case, shopped it to find a federal trial court where they believed they had the best chance of prevailing—which was Judge Hanen’s court in Brownsville, Texas. The plaintiff states—listed in the order they are found on the pleadings: Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Montana, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Maine, North Carolina, Mississippi, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Florida, Arizona, Arkansas, Michigan, Nevada and Tennessee—all have either Republican governors or legislatures, or both, not to mention most of them have long records of being anti-immigrant.

All the judges who have ruled in favor of the plaintiff states against the Obama administration’s new immigration policy have been appointed to the federal bench by Republican presidents, namely U. S. District Court Judge Andrew Hanen (Bush II), and Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals Judges Jerry Edwin Smith (Reagan), and Jennifer Walker Elrod (Bush II); while the two Fifth Circuit Judges who dissented to allow the new immigration program to proceed were appointed to the bench by Democratic presidents: Stephen Andrew Higginson (Obama) and Carolyn Dineen King (Carter).

It appears that the U.S. Supreme Court had a similar political split based on the party of the president who appointed them with Chief Justice John Roberts (Bush) and Associate Justices Anthony Kennedy (Reagan), Clarence Thomas (Bush I) and Samuel Alito (Bush II) on one side with Associate Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Clinton), Stephen Breyer (Clinton), Sonia Sotomayor (Obama), and Elena Kagan (Obama) on the other. It is difficult to envision any other breakdown.

This is hardly surprising. Public intellectual and federal Judge Richard Posner, who sits on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, addresses the reality of political decision making in the federal judiciary in his fascinating book How Judges Think (Harvard Univ. Press, 2008). He finds the fact that judges bring their political attitudes to the cases before them is a fact of judicial life. Judge Posner writes: “Every lawyer knows that the accident of which judges of a Court of Appeals are randomly drawn to constitute the panel that will hear his case may determine the outcome if the case is controversial. Every judge is aware of having liberal and conservative colleagues whose reactions to politically charged cases may be predicted with a fair degree of accuracy even if the judge who affixes these labels to his colleagues would not like to be labeled politically himself.”

Posner describes the Supreme Court as a “political court.” More specifically, he explains:

A constitutional court composed of unelected, life-tenured judges, guided in deciding issues at once emotional and political only by a very old and in critical passages very vague constitution as difficult to amend as the U. S. Constitution is, is bound to be a powerful political organ unless, despite the opportunities presented to the Justices, they manage somehow to behave like other judges. But how can they, when with so little guidance from the Constitution they are asked to resolve issues of great political significance? Political issues by definition cannot be referred to a neutral expert for resolution. A political dispute is a test of strength in which the “minority gives way not because it is convinced that it is wrong, but because it is convinced that it is a minority.” [Citing James Fitzjames Stephen, Liberty, Equality, Fraternity 21 (1993 [1873]).] Political issues can be resolved only by force or one of its civilized substitutes, such as voting – including voting by judges in cases in which their political preferences are likely to determine how they vote because of lack of guidance from the constitutional text.

The problems relating to immigration have arrived in federal court because the political branches— Congress and the president—have been unable to address and resolve these political problems. While there is a so-called “political question” doctrine, first established in Luther v. Borden, 48 U.S. 1 (1849), where the Court said they should not decide inherently political matters properly within the purview of Congress and the president, it has always struck me as a political decision by courts when they invoke the doctrine, picking and choosing issues which they take on. Courts often employ other dodges to avoid taking jurisdiction of such political matters, like whether the matter is justiciable—an issue over which the court has jurisdiction. (Here the dissenters felt these immigration decisions were within the exclusive discretion of those charged by Congress with enforcing the immigration laws.)

The issues underlying Texas et al. vs. U.S. et al. are very much a part of the 2016 presidential contest. Presidential candidate Donald Trump claims he has the answer. He’s going to round up some 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States and deport them all. To keep them from reentering he’s going to build a “huge” wall along our southern border—a plan that he clearly has not carefully considered. In fact, he does not have the money to undertake either an immigrant dragnet or to construct a wall, and only Congress can appropriate it, which is not likely.

With Congress refusing to address the problems of immigration, and federal courts inclined to stay out of the matter by invoking the political question doctrine, and the Supreme Court deadlocked until after a new president takes office, I anticipate a lot of wasted time and money as these issues bounce around in the federal courts in the coming years, and no one is going to be happy. Not those who are anxious because millions of undocumented immigrants are in the United States, nor those illegal immigrants who are in the United States and have given birth to United States citizens, nor those citizen children whose parents are now at imminent risk of deportation—for no one is going to find satisfaction in the courts.

If Trump is elected president, and appoints conservative Supreme Court justices, which he says he will do, efforts by the executive branch to find a temporary solution for the millions of illegal immigrants with American children will be permanently abolished, and President Trump can undoubtedly create a hellish situation for the millions who entered the country illegally. It is doubtful he can remove them, however. If Hillary is elected, and Democrats win control of Congress in the process, millions of these illegals will be given a road to U.S. citizenship, at best; at worst, temporary legal status where they will not live in fear of deportation.

Americans who fear or dislike immigrants will undoubtedly vote for Trump. Those who believe immigrants can and will make good Americans—like millions upon millions who preceded them in making this country—will vote for Hillary. So the larger issues raised by Texas et al vs. U.S. et al will most likely be resolved at the polls this November.


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1 posted on 07/01/2016 8:52:34 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

of children born in the United States (thus citizens)

Ugh! This gets my dander up every time I read or hear it. Boggles my mind!


2 posted on 07/01/2016 9:00:18 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: SolidRedState

If they are citizens, let them stay. If ther parents are illegal, they (as citizens) have the right to leave with their (deported) parents.


3 posted on 07/01/2016 9:05:15 AM PDT by themidnightskulker (And then the thread dies... peacefully, in it's sleep....)
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To: Elderberry

Obama has directed federal agencies to violate the law.

SCOTUS attorneys that sanction this have identified themselves as unfit for their position, Congress should - must - remove them. Congress can not allow their will to be thwarted by an alliance between the Executive and Judicial branches.


4 posted on 07/01/2016 9:05:38 AM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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To: All

Obama signing immigration orders on AF One. Both orders are on the WH web site.

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<><> The first of Obama's presidential action memos is entitled: “Creating Welcoming Communities Fully Integrating Immigrants and Refugees,” filed Nov. 26 in the Federal Register at Vol. 79, No. 228, (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-11-26/html/2014-28191.htm).

In the category “Presidential Documents” at page 70769, Obama ordered a White House Task Force on New Americans to “engage with community, business, and faith leaders, as well as State and local elected officials.” The task force is designed to “help determine additional steps the Federal Government can take to ensure its programs and policies are serving diverse communities that include new Americans.”

<><> The second of the presidential actions entitled, “Modernizing and Streamlining the U.S. Immigration Visa System for the 21st Century,” filed Nov. 26 in the Federal Register at Vol. 79, No. 228, in the category “Presidential Documents” at page 70765 (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-11-26/html/2014-28191.htm).

This empowered the secretaries of State and Homeland Securityin consultation with the director of the Office of Management and Budget, the director of the National Economic Council, the assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism, the director of the Domestic Policy Council, the director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, the attorney general, and the secretaries of Agriculture, Commerce, Labor and Education.

The order was to make a series of recommendations “to reduce government costs, improve services for applicants, reduce burdens on employers, and combat waste, fraud, and abuse in the system” of issuing immigrant and non-immigrant visas. Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/amnesty-shocker-the-secret-behind-obamas-order/#4OPdzIoJFRwXopUU.99

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The scam works this way: signed Boobamba memos "delegate" to federal agencies orders to come up with plans (that must advance Boobamba's global conspiracy to overthrow the US govt w/ Third World federales and their cadres jumping the US border).

The federal agencies then "invent" Committees to do this (the better to overthrow the US govt). Then "Administrative Rules," after a comment period, will be published in the "Code of Federal Regulations," which magically turns them into law........ using federal fairy dust.

So Boobamba is shielded from responsibility---he doesn't have to take the hit. Behind closed doors, he tells federal factotums what he wants.....and faster than you can say "the combo plate w/ extra hot sauce".....the overthrow of the US govt commences.

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THE "DELEGATION" HORROR STORY--A Federal agency MO since 1946. It's down to a science: (1) publish a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), (2) make the comment period really short, (3) stonewall any negative comments, and, (4) publish the rule, which (5) NOW has the force of US law. No Congressman was ever involved, and Boobamba doesn't leave his DNA on it. Yet again, why "Delegation" is ominous for liberty---why the writing of administrative law by federal agencies - is un-Constitutional (hat tip to FReeper Regulator.)

5 posted on 07/01/2016 9:10:36 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO
IN A SWORN AFFIDAVIT TO A US COURT, MEXICO SWORE
THAT MEXICANS ON US SOIL ARE MEXICAN CITIZENS.
A sworn affidavit by Mexico/s Consul General to a Texas court asserts that Mexico/s official govt policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access our generous welfare system...... declaring that Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing.

A footnote states that Mexican nationality is granted to children born abroad of a Mexican born parent. IOW, anchor babies born in the US retain parents Mexican nationality.

The Mexican consul/s sworn testimony asserts that: "My responsibilities in this position include protecting the rights and promoting the interests of my fellow Mexican nationals, and, that the main responsibility of consulates is to provide services, assistance, and protection to Mexican nationals abroad."

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NOTE This also wipes out anchor babies......and DHS Secy, Jeh Johnson and Obama who say illegals have essentially "become American" b/c they go to school, have licenses to drive, and can even practice law in California.

6 posted on 07/01/2016 9:14:02 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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OBAMA GAVE VISA-VOMITER RODRIGUES at USCIS
(AND ICE'S SALDANA) UNCHECKED POWER OVER US CITIZENS
: Obama's amnesty memos signed aboard AF-ONE last Nov "delegated" by ordering federal agencies to come up with "plans" (plans we believe advance the conspiracy to overthrow the US govt).

Saldana and Rodrigues' federal agencies then "invent" happy-sounding Committees to handle it. "Administrative Rules," after a comment period, are then published in the "Code of Federal Regulations," which magically turns them into law........ using federal fairy dust.

Now Obamba is shielded from responsibility---he doesn't have to take the hit. Behind closed doors, he tells Saldana and Rodrigues what he wants.....and faster than you can say "the combo plate w/ extra hot sauce".....the overthrow of the US govt commences.

7 posted on 07/01/2016 9:15:28 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: SolidRedState

They have DUAL citizenship. Ship them back home with the parents. Let them come back when they are 18.


8 posted on 07/01/2016 9:23:04 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: Elderberry

“Americans who fear or dislike immigrants will undoubtedly vote for Trump. Those who believe immigrants can and will make good Americans—like millions upon millions who preceded them in making this country—will vote for Hillary. So the larger issues raised by Texas et al vs. U.S. et al will most likely be resolved at the polls this November.”

What bulls!t.

The issue is not, and never has been, about immigrants. The main issue is about illegal alien entries and violations of our immigration laws.


9 posted on 07/01/2016 9:25:17 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: Cowboy Bob
They have DUAL citizenship.

No...they're Mexicans.

The parents weren't subject to US jurisdiction.

10 posted on 07/01/2016 9:29:34 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be our President.)
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To: SolidRedState

Why did the author even blather on about the legal mumbo jumbo and twists of words back and forth to argue both sides?

This is FREAKING SIMPLE!!!! Illegal Alien A broke the law to come into this country...THEREFORE any and all activities while here is by nature illegal, including having a child!!! The president (questionable illegal alien B) decides to not follow the law with respect to enforcement of illegal alien A when it is very specific to deportation.

Why the hell is this even being discussed anymore? Why hasn’t Congress moved for articles of impeachment?!?! I no longer blame this President, quite frankly I’m no longer mad or disgusted with him.

His actions or lack thereof can and should be completely governed by the body elected to keep the branch in check! I’m disgusted with Congress and quite frankly every member can go to h3ll


11 posted on 07/01/2016 10:05:43 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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> Why hasn’t Congress moved for articles of impeachment?!?!

There's a simple answer: they agree with it.

First, let's assume that the birther conspiracy is true: if it is then not only this Congress, but all of those involved in the Presidency of Obama are either supportive or willfully ignorant of the damage installing a foreigner into the Presidency is. Moreover, the particular Congress that certified Obama's [initial] election are a direct party to this overthrow of Constitutional constraints.

Next, consider the Court system's response: they've denied every birther case on standing, which means they refuse to hear any arguments or weigh any evidence, effectively telling the complainants to sit down and shut up… and they must dismiss the arguments and evidence out of hand, otherwise the conspiracy of the congress to install the ineligible would be made plain. (The powerful cannot let that happen, as to do so would be to sacrifice all their bought-and-paid-for Congressmen to zero gain. [And, indeed, significant risk… because their involvement with the corrupt congress would open them to investigation.])

Third, consider the Iran deal, literal treason, yet considered to be legitimate and binding. (This is independent of the birther case, but additional evidence of Congress's duplicity.)

Fourth, the multiple decades where Congress promised to secure the border. (And look at what a fuss they've thrown up against a candidate who threatens to do just that by building a wall.)

Fifth, look at how Congress enacts laws and policies that benefit illegal aliens. (H1B visas, which are rife with fraud; welfare, etc)

The cumulative effect of the Congress allowing all of this to happen is the replacement of the native citizenry; why?
I believe the answer is simple: they have no loyalty to you or I and see us as little more than cattle to be ranched for money and votes — and in that sense we're decidedly more of a risk (as traditionally the American is distrustful of [the motives of] those in authority) and, as such, it is a smart move to replace the American people with those who are used to governmental corruption and graft, who will not put their foot down and say ENOUGH!

I think this mindset explains far too many of our government's policies and actions over the past few decades to be dismissed easily, and it leads to the unpleasant conclusion that it it time to water the Tree of Liberty.

12 posted on 07/01/2016 10:32:02 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Jarhead9297

And the worst is he can veto anything they do and they have to come up with enough votes to override and that ain’t gonna happen anytime soon.

The system only works if all sides are working for THIS country and within the constitution.

Even if a law was somehow magically passed, he would simply ignore it and make his own law.

A lot of impeachments need to happen.


13 posted on 07/01/2016 10:37:50 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; Cowboy Bob

“The parents weren’t subject to US jurisdiction.”

If that was true, we couldn’t have deported them just for being here. Or arrested them first.

I don’t like it either, but the answer isn’t to ignore parts of the Constitution we don’t like. The answer is to *change* them.


14 posted on 07/01/2016 4:04:24 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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