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America is history's exception
San Jose Mercury News ^ | Victor Davis Hanson | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 06/08/2016 7:50:08 PM PDT by artichokegrower

The history of nations is mostly characterized by ethnic and racial uniformity, not diversity.

Most national boundaries reflected linguistic, religious and ethnic homogeneity. Until the late 20th century, diversity was considered a liability, not a strength.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: diversity; vdh; victordavishanson
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When immigration was controlled, measured and coupled with a confident approach to assimilation, America thrived.


In California uncontrolled immigration has resulted in high crime, deteriorating infrastructure, poor schools, and a lack of housing.

1 posted on 06/08/2016 7:50:08 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

All immigration needs to stop. It is a burden on the people and enough is enough.


2 posted on 06/08/2016 7:52:46 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Stop all immigration for one generation, then resume at 1/8th the current rate.

We need to catch our breath as a culture, and as a country.


3 posted on 06/08/2016 7:57:27 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: artichokegrower

California is among those on the front lines. While their problems are bigger than most, they are not alone in sharing the misery of uncontrolled immigration. Both legal and illegal. We need to have a pause and weed out the bad actors and then return to controlled immigration.


4 posted on 06/08/2016 7:58:26 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: artichokegrower

Another great column by Victor Davis Hanson. Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 06/08/2016 7:58:40 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: artichokegrower

Diversity takes a back seat to unity, Davis says.


6 posted on 06/08/2016 8:20:16 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors)
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To: rockinqsranch

While I definitely agree that E Pluribus Unum is vital to the future of the United States, I’m not sure it can argued that national homogeneity has been that infrequent in creating successful national identity.

The Swiss have endured centuries of citizens divided between French, German, and Italian stock. Germans and Italians never thought of themselves as such until the 1800s when the various smaller entities like Saxony and Prussia, or Venice and Naples ame together. In fact the entire European continent has been a constantly shifting patchwork of new nations replacing old.

Let’s not let that happen here.


7 posted on 06/08/2016 8:21:07 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: central_va

These days, if you say “I’m proud to be an American,” you’ll be attacked.


8 posted on 06/08/2016 8:32:47 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: artichokegrower

Diversity is still a liability for any culture!


9 posted on 06/08/2016 8:52:58 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: thecodont

“These days, if you say “I’m proud to be an American,” you’ll be attacked.”

I read your comment and thought, “only someone living behind enemy lines would say such a thing.”

I clicked on your profile, and sure enough...

I left California ten years ago and moved to America. Texas, to be exact. I don’t know a single neighbor who isn’t proud to be an American, and most are even prouder to be a Texan.


10 posted on 06/08/2016 8:55:16 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Grin. Good for you.

Here we are defiantly American. In the deepest of deep blue neighborhoods.

Hope I see a bit of purple dawn breaking.


11 posted on 06/08/2016 9:15:23 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: artichokegrower

The Federalist #2
Independent Journal
Wednesday, October 31, 1787
[John Jay]

“...Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people — a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.

This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties..”


12 posted on 06/08/2016 9:19:06 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When being bad is not enough and only evil will do)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


13 posted on 06/08/2016 9:22:59 PM PDT by nutmeg (Hillary's Lies Matter)
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To: artichokegrower

It is an orchestrated invasion, not “immigration”.

The Leftists planned to “kill God” (Christianity) in the late 1800s and the Cultural Marxists knew that to collapse culture (civil society) you needed to destroy Wisdom of the Ages (no transmission of culture to the little kids-—just hyper-sexualize them and destroy intellectual pursuits-—addict them to programming units (Common Core is Neo-Marxist/Neo-Freudian (sexist) indoctrination which begins at age 5 to literally destroy critical thinking and embed hatred for white heterosexual males and Christian Ethics and the ideology which created the USA.


14 posted on 06/08/2016 9:40:49 PM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: savagesusie

That about sums it up.


15 posted on 06/09/2016 12:46:48 AM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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To: artichokegrower; metesky
Excellent article by VDH, as usual.

Thanks for posting.

16 posted on 06/09/2016 1:13:51 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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Sorry, Victor D, but you're talking of the history of "nations" -- the concept of nation state is a pretty new one -- dating from the French revolution. AT that time only about 10% of France spoke French, but the revolution after that forcibly converted the rest to one "nation".

Most other countries prior to that were mergers of different nations

Ancient Germanic tribes were mostly bands of warriors and when they formed a "nation" it was with different ethnicities underneath. Example the hunnic empire consisted of Huns as rulers with Germanic warriors and Slavic farmers. The Germanics took over the Gauls and became French, ditto for the Turkic bulgars who were subsumed by their slavic peoples

17 posted on 06/09/2016 1:45:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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Also, this is wrong
The Italian Roman Republic lasted about 500 years. In contrast, the multiracial Roman Empire that after the Edict of Caracalla in AD 212
The Roman Republic was already multi-racial from the time before the Punic wars -- in fact right to the dawn of the founding of Rome: Rome was a mix of Etruscan and Italic peoples and culture. Then, the Latins conquered Greek peoples in the south (Magna Graecia or greater Greece was the southern part of Italy + Sicily).

Then they conquered the Etruscans, another non-Italic peoples

Then they conquered the Gaullish peoples in Cisalpine GAul (the north-western part of modern-day Italy) and the Celto-Iberian people in Spain -- Emperor Trajan (98 AD to 114) was ethnically Spanish, as was Hadrian.

18 posted on 06/09/2016 1:51:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: artichokegrower
Also, this is wrong
The Italian Roman Republic lasted about 500 years. In contrast, the multiracial Roman Empire that after the Edict of Caracalla in AD 212
The Roman Republic also lasted for about 500 years up to 27 BC, followed by the Principate until 300 AD, followed by the DOminate. The Roman Empire didn't collapse due to multi-racialism.
19 posted on 06/09/2016 1:53:12 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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Until the late 20th century, diversity was considered a liability, not a strength.

What was true then is true now. Diversity destroys.

20 posted on 06/09/2016 2:26:15 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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