Posted on 04/11/2016 3:53:02 PM PDT by Kaslin
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RUSH: All right, look. It really doesn't matter whether I think Cruz is cheating or not. Some of you do, and that's as far as it goes. You don't... But I'm gonna try to explain this to you because I think it is very important that everybody understand this. Now, I just said closing out the previous hour something, apparently, very provocative. My e-mail is blowing up. I'm thinking ahead down the road. I'm asking myself, what happens here if the establishment succeeds in beating Trump? For this discussion, it doesn't matter whether they do it legitimately or quote/unquote "cheat."
At the end of this, if Trump doesn't get the nomination after all of this, then what's next? Now, Pat Buchanan has written that he thinks it doesn't really matter because Trump has ignited a new nationalistic populist movement which will not be denied, and that if they don't get there this year, this movement now has found out how powerful it is and how many people are in it; that in certain polling senses they are a majority. A number of people oppose immigration, want a wall, and have trade deal opposition. So Buchanan says that...
And, by the way, he's not hoping for this. But if Trump doesn't get the nomination, he says that that doesn't matter because this group of people, the Trumpists -- the people supporting Trump. Buchanan believes they're actually supporting more than Trump. They are supporting a set of ideas and principles that will survive Trump. And that a new movement has been born, that the genie's out of the bottle, that the establishment will not be able to put back in the bottle.
Doug Schoen, who's a Democrat pollster and strategist who also appears on the evil and dreaded Fox News Channel where he does analysis -- usually sitting next to, I think, Monica Crowley or whoever they put him with, just to balance it out. You know, "fair and balanced," you decide. Doug has a piece here. (chuckles) Oh, look! It's at Fox News. And the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." And his theme is this.
"In future elections, we may not have someone as outlandish as Trump. But his legacy will surely have paved the way for leaders who may not know anything about governing, but know a lot about how people are feeling." I gather from this... Here the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." He quite correctly notes the genuine depth of anger that a majority of Americans feel, and he thinks -- I guess along the line with Buchanan -- that a new movement has begun here.
I don't deny that. I mean, I don't deny that the people who think what they think are gonna stop thinking it, and I don't doubt that there's a lot of them. But my only point is this. This is how serious it is. If the establishment succeeds or if Ted Cruz -- and those are two different entities, by the way. Ted Cruz is not the establishment right now. So you've got two entities working against Trump. You got Cruz from the campaign angle; you've got the establishment from their own angle. If either or both succeed in stopping Trump, where does this movement go?
I have no doubt they might abandon the Republican Party. But my instincts tell me that... What's the objective here? If you're a Trumpist, what's the objective? After winning, besides winning, what's the objective? It's to abolish this insider club, right? It's to abolish the establishment. It's to get rid of it once and for all, realizing you're only gonna be able to do that on the Republican side. (chuckling) The Democrats are not gonna let anybody come in and kick them out of it -- and I don't think the Republicans are, either.
But let's say that that's the ultimate objective is to just get rid of this club, is to get rid of all of this insider stuff, all the favoritism, all the back scratching, all the cronyism, all the unfairness, you know, all the greasing skids for everybody's kids so all they have to do is grow up and they're automatic successes and all this is. Get rid of it, blow it up, and turn it back over to a merit based. I'm here to tell you that if the establishment beats back this effort, nobody's gonna come along and take it away from 'em again. (interruption)
Why are you shaking your head in there? (interruption) You doubt my premise? (interruption) Well, my only point here is that the objective is to... If the problem is perceived to be the establishment, which it is, and Trump is the vehicle for victory overwhelming, overcoming the establishment, what happens if Trump doesn't win? The establishment holds on. If Trump doesn't win, no matter what. If the Trumpists represent one half of the voters of the Republican Party, and then if every one of them stops voting Republican, that is not gonna end the Republican establishment.
And, furthermore, the Republican establishment won't care. That's the problem. They won't care. As long as they hold on to their fiefdom, as long as there is a Republican Party, and as long as the people who run it continue to run it, then beating back this latest insurgency, they will consider to be a victory. Not whether they win the White House or not. Their first order of business right now is to beat back the insurgency, the rabble-rousers, the peasants with the pitchforks.
That's their first objective right now. And if they have to roll up their sleeves and work with Ted Cruz for a couple of months to do it, they'll do it. But then Cruz is gonna be their next target. (interruption) Don't doubt me. (interruption) Don't shake your heads in there. Don't doubt me on this. These are people hanging on for dear life. These are people in a car that has gone over the cliff; it's sinking to the bottom of the lake. They're struggling to get the windows open and swim out of that car, and they're gonna do everything they can to live.
They're not gonna allow Trump to push that car over the cliff with the doors and windows locked, or Cruz, for that matter. So my only point is this: If Trump, as a candidate, ends up being defeated, and if he doesn't get to 1,237, do you see him winning on a second or third ballot, given what you've seen happen this weekend? Well, some people don't, but even though you've gotta realize something. If everybody's out there buying delegates, don't forget Trump has Mar-a-Lago.
I mean, if you're gonna wine and dine delegates, Trump's got Trump Force One. I mean, Trump's... There you go once again: Insulting delegates, thinking they can be bought off with... (interruption) Well, can I give you some names? (chuckling) No, folks, I'm just kidding. Look, the anti-establishment movement is real. It's a lot of people. But if it doesn't succeed in making great, great inroads in the establishment this time around, it's gonna be a long time before it happens again. The establishment's gonna be well girded, well protected -- and this is for keeps. That's why...
I'm sorry. All of this is precisely why the focus on Hillary and Obama and the Democrats hasbeen lost, because right now people are in a life-and-death struggle over their identity, their self-worth and any number of other things.
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You don't fool me one bit.
I am wondering who they found him in bed with
You are a better man than me then. I did pull the lever for the sob. And have regretted it ever since.
>Says the noobie who joined Freerepublic exactly 2 weeks or 14 days ago
You could have been any flavor but chose to be salty!
See if I can find another candidate other than a Republican
If a Republican Senator says it so can I do.
Ping
Here is an interesting theory that Pat Buchanan has put forward, which Rush Limbaugh seems to support. Even if Trump loses the nomination, he has awakened a grass roots political movement for national sovereignty and against PC values which will have a lasting and beneficial effect on the nation.
It could, but what will happen in the short term?
Cruz can't beat Hillary...If Trump loses, I'll write him in...
I would actually support that but I wonder how many people on Free Republic actually would?
I will never vote for cheatin’ Cruz. I will stay home or even vote hillary. If Trump walks—I will go with him into a 3rd Party—any 3rd Party. I can only hope Pat B. and Sarah P. will follow him out of the corrupt GOP. Its time for them to go the way of the Whigs! Maybe we should bring back the Whigs!
I have listened to Rush since he first came on in the DC market, I’m done with him he has shown he is a low life Republican elitest.
I question his take on the lunch over the gang of 8 with Shummer in NYC.
“Cruz will LOSE in a LANDSLIDE!”
Cruz will not lose in a landslide.....the GOPe will get rid of Cruz LONG before the general election. But whoever they ram into the position of running against Hillary and/or Bernie, will lose in a landslide.
If its Cruz vs Hillary I will vote for the sleaziest scumbag ever to be from the US senate....Ted Cruz. But relax, he wont be the nominee. Not even possible.
don’t worry. if Cruz is nominated Hillary will file suit against him claiming the guy born in Canada isn’t eligible.
and the courts will easily agree.
at which point... we get Hillary. and with Hillary comes the democrat model of spending what they don’t have... pushing the debt from $20 trillion to $30 trillion ++
of course... the country cannot survive that, as other countries will stop trading our bonds. at which point, we collapse and cease to exist as a national entity (similar to what happened to the USSR)
“Cruz will not lose in a landslide.....the GOPe will get rid of Cruz LONG before the general election”
Yup ... Cruz cannot win Florida and it’s 29 electoral votes, let alone Virginia, NC.
And if you can’t win Florida...you can’t win. It’s that simple !!
The answer is to primary every republican incumbent. Term limits by the people!
There is an active campaign here in Florida to write Trumps name in for ALL positions....LOL he could be a mayor or a congressman or dogcatcher LOL!
In Florida Trump won solid with new voters and voters that hadnt bothered in years so the GOP will pay the price.
after the NE primary, switching back to indie
There isn't one...
If Trump gets the closest to 1237, he ought to get the highest priority as far as subsequent rounds.
But you're acting like not only is it a given, but right and proper that if he falls just short, the nomination naturally "ought* to go to someone else.
Let the cat out of the bag, there, mole?
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