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What Happens If Trump Is Defeated?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 11, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/11/2016 3:53:02 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: All right, look. It really doesn't matter whether I think Cruz is cheating or not. Some of you do, and that's as far as it goes. You don't... But I'm gonna try to explain this to you because I think it is very important that everybody understand this. Now, I just said closing out the previous hour something, apparently, very provocative. My e-mail is blowing up. I'm thinking ahead down the road. I'm asking myself, what happens here if the establishment succeeds in beating Trump? For this discussion, it doesn't matter whether they do it legitimately or quote/unquote "cheat."

At the end of this, if Trump doesn't get the nomination after all of this, then what's next? Now, Pat Buchanan has written that he thinks it doesn't really matter because Trump has ignited a new nationalistic populist movement which will not be denied, and that if they don't get there this year, this movement now has found out how powerful it is and how many people are in it; that in certain polling senses they are a majority. A number of people oppose immigration, want a wall, and have trade deal opposition. So Buchanan says that...

And, by the way, he's not hoping for this. But if Trump doesn't get the nomination, he says that that doesn't matter because this group of people, the Trumpists -- the people supporting Trump. Buchanan believes they're actually supporting more than Trump. They are supporting a set of ideas and principles that will survive Trump. And that a new movement has been born, that the genie's out of the bottle, that the establishment will not be able to put back in the bottle.

Doug Schoen, who's a Democrat pollster and strategist who also appears on the evil and dreaded Fox News Channel where he does analysis -- usually sitting next to, I think, Monica Crowley or whoever they put him with, just to balance it out. You know, "fair and balanced," you decide. Doug has a piece here. (chuckles) Oh, look! It's at Fox News. And the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." And his theme is this.

"In future elections, we may not have someone as outlandish as Trump. But his legacy will surely have paved the way for leaders who may not know anything about governing, but know a lot about how people are feeling." I gather from this... Here the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." He quite correctly notes the genuine depth of anger that a majority of Americans feel, and he thinks -- I guess along the line with Buchanan -- that a new movement has begun here.

I don't deny that. I mean, I don't deny that the people who think what they think are gonna stop thinking it, and I don't doubt that there's a lot of them. But my only point is this. This is how serious it is. If the establishment succeeds or if Ted Cruz -- and those are two different entities, by the way. Ted Cruz is not the establishment right now. So you've got two entities working against Trump. You got Cruz from the campaign angle; you've got the establishment from their own angle. If either or both succeed in stopping Trump, where does this movement go?

I have no doubt they might abandon the Republican Party. But my instincts tell me that... What's the objective here? If you're a Trumpist, what's the objective? After winning, besides winning, what's the objective? It's to abolish this insider club, right? It's to abolish the establishment. It's to get rid of it once and for all, realizing you're only gonna be able to do that on the Republican side. (chuckling) The Democrats are not gonna let anybody come in and kick them out of it -- and I don't think the Republicans are, either.

But let's say that that's the ultimate objective is to just get rid of this club, is to get rid of all of this insider stuff, all the favoritism, all the back scratching, all the cronyism, all the unfairness, you know, all the greasing skids for everybody's kids so all they have to do is grow up and they're automatic successes and all this is. Get rid of it, blow it up, and turn it back over to a merit based. I'm here to tell you that if the establishment beats back this effort, nobody's gonna come along and take it away from 'em again. (interruption)

Why are you shaking your head in there? (interruption) You doubt my premise? (interruption) Well, my only point here is that the objective is to... If the problem is perceived to be the establishment, which it is, and Trump is the vehicle for victory overwhelming, overcoming the establishment, what happens if Trump doesn't win? The establishment holds on. If Trump doesn't win, no matter what. If the Trumpists represent one half of the voters of the Republican Party, and then if every one of them stops voting Republican, that is not gonna end the Republican establishment.

And, furthermore, the Republican establishment won't care. That's the problem. They won't care. As long as they hold on to their fiefdom, as long as there is a Republican Party, and as long as the people who run it continue to run it, then beating back this latest insurgency, they will consider to be a victory. Not whether they win the White House or not. Their first order of business right now is to beat back the insurgency, the rabble-rousers, the peasants with the pitchforks.

That's their first objective right now. And if they have to roll up their sleeves and work with Ted Cruz for a couple of months to do it, they'll do it. But then Cruz is gonna be their next target. (interruption) Don't doubt me. (interruption) Don't shake your heads in there. Don't doubt me on this. These are people hanging on for dear life. These are people in a car that has gone over the cliff; it's sinking to the bottom of the lake. They're struggling to get the windows open and swim out of that car, and they're gonna do everything they can to live.

They're not gonna allow Trump to push that car over the cliff with the doors and windows locked, or Cruz, for that matter. So my only point is this: If Trump, as a candidate, ends up being defeated, and if he doesn't get to 1,237, do you see him winning on a second or third ballot, given what you've seen happen this weekend? Well, some people don't, but even though you've gotta realize something. If everybody's out there buying delegates, don't forget Trump has Mar-a-Lago.

I mean, if you're gonna wine and dine delegates, Trump's got Trump Force One. I mean, Trump's... There you go once again: Insulting delegates, thinking they can be bought off with... (interruption) Well, can I give you some names? (chuckling) No, folks, I'm just kidding. Look, the anti-establishment movement is real. It's a lot of people. But if it doesn't succeed in making great, great inroads in the establishment this time around, it's gonna be a long time before it happens again. The establishment's gonna be well girded, well protected -- and this is for keeps. That's why...

I'm sorry. All of this is precisely why the focus on Hillary and Obama and the Democrats hasbeen lost, because right now people are in a life-and-death struggle over their identity, their self-worth and any number of other things.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; cba123; cruztolose; defiant; dragonblustar; gaijin; gope; gopelimbaugh; heights; libfreeusa; losewithcruz; morekaslintds; tds; trumpstershavingfits; vandekoik
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To: stockpirate

I’m shocked at Limbaugh. I never guessed that he would move in this direction.


41 posted on 04/11/2016 4:22:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

In the 1700’s they didn’t have high tech. There was no 24 hour news cycle.
It took years for things to boil over with Great Britain and it’s tyrant. Things today move much faster.
I’m afraid we may be reaching a point rather quickly where the Tyranny must be confronted directly because The Ballot Box has been subverted by the uni-party. And the outcome will not likely be the victory of freedom and preservation of our Republic.
And unbelievably some of us are actually on the wrong side of the issue.
I can foresee no peaceful outcome or solution for us as a nation. I like Donald Trump for several reasons.... But if elected I believe they intend to give him the JFK/LINCOLN treatment. They are at that point in their desperation.
And I mean the uniparty inclusive of the GOPe and even some freepers.

They MUST PRESERVE GLOBALISM to protect their power base and income. And will do so at any cost.
I would be really happy if there was a realistic scenario where we could restore our nation while destroying globalism.


42 posted on 04/11/2016 4:22:09 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When you see a drowning liberal, throw them the anchor...)
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To: Kaslin

If DT does not win the nomination if he quits, he really didn’t want it, but if he goes with his own party, which he should, then he could very well win the presidency.


43 posted on 04/11/2016 4:22:31 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Kaslin

At this point the main difference between Trump and Cruz is that one will lose this summer and the other will lose in November. #Nevercruz vs #nevertrump. Ha!


44 posted on 04/11/2016 4:22:43 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Trump vs Cruz - One loses in the summer, the other goes down in the fall.)
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To: I-ambush

If it’s by vote that’s fine, but that won’t be happening.


45 posted on 04/11/2016 4:23:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: trisham
I’m shocked at Limbaugh. I never guessed that he would move in this direction.

I am too. Whatever else, this has been a very revealing election so far.

46 posted on 04/11/2016 4:24:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RedWulf

Says the noobie who joined Freerepublic exactly 2 weeks or 14 days ago


47 posted on 04/11/2016 4:24:36 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: teletech

I have voted in every election for the last 46 years.
No more!
The game is always rigged and there is only one party, the party of big government.


48 posted on 04/11/2016 4:27:25 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: dragonblustar

tell that to your fellow trumpsters


49 posted on 04/11/2016 4:28:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: cba123

I’m not sure. I currently Support Trump but will vote Cruz if he is nominated. There is too much at stake this time around for infighting. That said I think regardless of the primary outcome it is time to clean house inside the rnc.


50 posted on 04/11/2016 4:29:27 PM PDT by enduserindy (Republican's have sold the path, not lost it.)
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To: heights

Shame on you.


51 posted on 04/11/2016 4:30:05 PM PDT by enduserindy (Republican's have sold the path, not lost it.)
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To: TroutStalker
I have voted in every election for the last 46 years. No more!

The game is always rigged and there is only one party, the party of big government.

I think Trump pulled back the curtain on the GOPe and they hate him and are using Cruz to prove it.

52 posted on 04/11/2016 4:30:09 PM PDT by teletech
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To: Kaslin

What if because of the great ‘success’ the GOPe had in Colorado the other states start doing the same thing?

It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s already being done.


53 posted on 04/11/2016 4:31:13 PM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: Kaslin

He’s completely right.

Cruz is now the problem.

Big time.


54 posted on 04/11/2016 4:32:23 PM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Kaslin
Proudly Fox Free since Aug6, 2015
Proudly Limbaugh free since Apr11, 2016

55 posted on 04/11/2016 4:34:36 PM PDT by Company Man (Keep on Trumpin')
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To: enduserindy

[...but will vote Cruz if he is nominated.]

Then the GOPe AND the liberal candidate nominee will come after Cruz.


56 posted on 04/11/2016 4:36:50 PM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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I sincerely believe the GOP doesn’t care if they lose and the Dems take over for another 8 years as long as they keep their gravy train. Now I’m fully aware of just how corrupt the GOP is, I will be registering as Independent after voting for Trump in the PA primary. If Trump is not a nominee on the ballot in Nov, I will write his name in for POTUS and for every GOP candidate listed down ballot: Trump for Senate, Trump for Congress, Trump for State Rep., Trump for local tax collector. Screw’em.


57 posted on 04/11/2016 4:37:13 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: cba123
If Trump is defeated, the GOP is scr@wed.<.i>

They will lose, and stop growing. Democrats take over.

Naw, that will just put them back in the minority...They're quite comfortable in the minority...In fact, I think they prefer it...

58 posted on 04/11/2016 4:37:37 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump/Kasich...A winning team...)
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To: Billthedrill

Agreed.


59 posted on 04/11/2016 4:38:35 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: teletech

Trump has to get 1237 delegates. If he doesn’t he will not get the nomination. That are the rules, like it or not. Getting close to it does not do it.


60 posted on 04/11/2016 4:38:35 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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