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Trump’s weak delegate operation could derail his nomination
MSNBC ^ | 6 April 2016 | Benjy Sarlan

Posted on 04/08/2016 11:01:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

There’s a recurring question among the Republicans gathering in Colorado at state and local conventions to choose delegates this week: "Where’s Donald Trump?"

Colorado is a rare state where party officials choose delegates without any input from a primary or caucus vote. The bulk of the state’s 37 delegates will be picked at a series of congressional district conventions on Friday and a state convention on Saturday in Colorado Springs. Prospective delegates can run as unaffiliated free agents or pledge to back a candidate.

"There just doesn’t seem to be any Trump organization at all, to be honest," Dick Wadhams, a former Colorado GOP chairman, told MSNBC. "I do think that Cruz has an advantage going into this convention on Saturday."

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To: Conservative Gato
"Cruz has very little chance of getting the nomination outright and now it is down to trying to steal the nomination. Does it not bother principled conservatives that The Big Steal is on? Or does the ends justify the means????

160 years, 40 GOP conventions, and EVERY SINGLE nominee gained the majority. But now you want the rules changed for Trump, who, if he can't get to 1,237, would be the WEAKEST NOMINEE in history.

Stop crying, turn off the TV, put down the beer, go get the delegates. It's not that hard.

121 posted on 04/09/2016 7:29:11 PM PDT by cookcounty (Why are Trump's poll numbers against a wounded Hillary so AWFUL? Hello? No answer?)
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To: Longbow1969
"Trump is reaping what he's sewn. Good luck trying to get the nomination on the second or third ballot lol.

The honey rather than vinegar thing was apparently not part of the Trump family curriculum.

I lived in New York. The "insult 'em and they'll respect you" approach actually does work in New York City, ----but not in lots of other places.

122 posted on 04/09/2016 7:35:35 PM PDT by cookcounty (Why are Trump's poll numbers against a wounded Hillary so AWFUL? Hello? No answer?)
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To: cookcounty
160 years, 40 GOP conventions, and EVERY SINGLE nominee gained the majority. But now you want the rules changed for Trump, who, if he can't get to 1,237, would be the WEAKEST NOMINEE in history.

That's just not true, it happened in 1948:

For Republicans, the most recent brokered convention was in 1948, which also happened to be the first televised national convention. The top contenders were New York Gov. Thomas Dewey, U.S. Sen. Robert A. Taft of Ohio, and former Minnesota Gov. Harold Stassen.

Dewey failed to win enough votes to win the nomination in the first round of balloting, getting 434 votes to Taft's 224 and Stassen's 157. Dewey inched closer in the second round with 515 votes, but his opponents tried to create a bloc of votes against him.

They failed, and on the third ballot, both Taft and Stassen withdrew from the contest, giving Dewey all 1,094 delegate votes. He later lost to Harry S. Truman.

Source: http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicalparties/a/What-Is-A-Brokered-Convention.htm

I still stand by my statement. With the remaining delegates, Cruz virtually has no chance of getting the nomination outright. If he needed something like 50% to 60% of the remaining delegates, I can understand the delegate play but it is pretty impossible at this point to get it outright.

The only thing he can do is the principled thing and withdraw (Santorum needed 75% of the remaining delegates and he withdrew, Cruz needs something like 88% of the remaining delegates) or join in with the corrupt GOPe establishment and their nationwide apparatus, to try to steal it.

CGato

123 posted on 04/09/2016 7:47:37 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: napscoordinator

Gosh nappy,

Haven’t you told the world how smart the five year old drama queen is? If he is so smart, why is the drama queen clueless in how the delegate selection process works?


124 posted on 04/09/2016 11:10:36 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: dp0622

The drama queen is 70 or almost 70. He’s not learning anything new. He is what we see he is. A drama queen. A five year old drama queen. If the drama queen had learned anything since last summer, any emotionally stable person would not have behaved in his manner. He can’t help himself. Drama queens are like that.


125 posted on 04/09/2016 11:14:43 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

Methinks the drama queen has some company...


126 posted on 04/09/2016 11:19:53 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: skr
Reagan was also a detail guy. He spoke in broad terms, but he knew what he was doing. One can't compare the two and frankly, the two names should never appear in the same sentence, out of respect for Reagan, if nothing else.

Reagan was knowledgeable and knew of what he spoke and wrote about. Reagan was emotionally stable and was not a drama queen. Reagan knew and understood how to treat people and work with them. Remember how it appeared fairly easy Reagan got Tip to go along or at least let the dems vote their conscience. That didn't happen by accident.

And speaking of hard work, you are absolutely correct, Reagan did the nitty gritty, day to day speaking, talking and meeting peoples and groups in ways that T***p appears to think is beneath him. But to take it further, Reagan worked hard in infiltrating the Republican apparatus on all levels, so the party worked for him and not against him. Reagan and his aides recruited supporters to not only run for local office, but they recruited supporters to run for the local republican committee and recruited supporters to vote for them. I recall entire slates of local republican party committee members losing en masse to Reagan supporters. Reagan supporters took over and they made the rules. These people, in turn, then took over the state party committees and then, finally, the Republican National Committee. This took much work over a period of several years before the 1980 primaries. I recall these establishment people screaming that the Reagan supporters forced them out and they did not go quietly, but in the end, Reagan was indeed a unifier and won them over.

This is why Reagan and T***p should never be in the same sentence. One took the high road and worked from within, much of it behind the scenes organizing and strategizing and winning. The other, decided to do it the cheap and lazy way, assuming his bullying, taunting and rancid intimidating was all he needed. The drama queen also thought he did not need to know much of anything to run. All he needed to do was spout his poll numbers as the answer to every question. T***p thought wrong.

127 posted on 04/09/2016 11:39:08 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Conservative Gato

The great thing about Trump getting the nomination is that means pretty much the end of our corrupt GOPe (you know, the GOPe and their whole nationwide apparatus that has gotten behind Cruz to try to steal this thing).

I know for a fact it isn’t so, Mr. Trump assured me that Ted Cruz can’t work with anybody. It’s a fact and I will not have you disparaging Mr. Trump’s judgement!

DK

LOL


128 posted on 04/09/2016 11:44:22 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Conservative Gato
T***p's inability to bother himself in understanding how the process works, disqualifies him. Even though I don't support the drama queen, I used to think that if he had the most delegates, T***p should get the nomination, but his drama queen behavior in the past month has changed my mind.

If that means millions stay home because they can't vote for T***p in November, so be it. We will be better off in the long run and we can try again in 2020. Don't bother to tell me we can't wait four more years - yes, we can.

129 posted on 04/09/2016 11:44:26 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

I don’t think getting those delegates are as import as the northeast. Sorry it isn’t. Once Cruz starts getting third place in all those states and can’t get 1237. Calls for him to drop out will be loud from the media.


130 posted on 04/09/2016 11:51:15 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: dp0622
He’s just not gonna spend it.

No he's not. Even what he claims to have spent ("self funded") so far, he hasn't spent. He has just "loaned" money to his campaign. That means that he can demand his money to be paid back and the campaign will need to raise money from elsewhere or be left holding the bag.

That is the same game he reportedly plays with construction contractors who he routinely stiffs for the last 10-20% of their money, claiming that they did substandard work, whether true or not. It is usually not worth their time and hassle to sue him, as it could cost more at that point than the likely ~10% recovery. Why anybody still bids on his developments is a mystery, unless you consider the union and mob angles.

131 posted on 04/10/2016 12:16:17 AM PDT by SFConservative
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To: Dark Knight
I know for a fact it isn’t so, Mr. Trump assured me that Ted Cruz can’t work with anybody. It’s a fact and I will not have you disparaging Mr. Trump’s judgement!

Yeah, Ted Cruz has been a huge disappointment for me.

CGato

132 posted on 04/10/2016 12:17:00 AM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Dave W
T***p's inability to bother himself in understanding how the process works, disqualifies him. Even though I don't support the drama queen, I used to think that if he had the most delegates, T***p should get the nomination, but his drama queen behavior in the past month has changed my mind.

If that means millions stay home because they can't vote for T***p in November, so be it. We will be better off in the long run and we can try again in 2020. Don't bother to tell me we can't wait four more years - yes, we can.

How does that disqualify him? He's not a career professional politician but he catching up to speed fairly quickly by hiring his new convention manager. I understand he is very good and will right the ship shortly. If Trump gets the required number of delegates, he should be the nominee, otherwise the corrupt GOP establishment gets their candidate once again.

You're crazy if you think we can wait four more years. This country is beyond broke and you want to give the Uniparty and Globalist establishment at least four more years to continue to plunder and destroy this nation?

We cannot afford to wait.

CGato

133 posted on 04/10/2016 12:26:45 AM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Dark Knight; Conservative Gato
DK: This is what you get for leaving off the </sarc> tag ...
134 posted on 04/10/2016 12:34:02 AM PDT by SFConservative
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To: napscoordinator

“..I am writing in trump period if he doesn’t get the nod.”

I hear Hillary wants to thank you for that.


135 posted on 04/10/2016 12:45:12 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: sagar

“....Just cannot close the deal, despite writing(bragging) books about deals.”

Trump can only make business deals for HIMSELF.

Herbert Hoover was also a businessman, but he didn’t do so well as POTUS.


136 posted on 04/10/2016 12:49:42 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If Donald Trump can’t pick good advisors for a decent ground game to win an election, how the heck is he going to pick good advisors as president?

Trump is just NOT presidential material, in so many ways.


137 posted on 04/10/2016 1:04:47 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Won’t work. You idiot Cruz lovers are at fault.


138 posted on 04/10/2016 1:29:48 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I think you fail to see the point. The men who run your bank, the men who run the great economic institutions are in fact men like you and I who form personal relationship and have a certain way of looking at the the world. There is a right side to their brain. and it manifests itself in such actions as the ganging upon on the Governor of Georgia on a matter totally unrelated to their businesses. Trump is a member of this club, He shares their values. Sixty years ago, the members of that club were the sort that thought of themselves as gentlemen. In the old Anglo-Saxon sense. Rather in the WASP sense. That is no longer true, but only the values have changed, not the notion that they are part of the Ruling Class of the United States. Our royalty. Peers of the realm.


139 posted on 04/10/2016 9:16:43 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

Well I think you are going to get the opportunity to see a President who actually solves some problems while in office. Of all your grievance’s about govt. Donald Trump did not cause any of them.


140 posted on 04/11/2016 7:38:24 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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