Posted on 04/05/2016 7:51:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
It basically boils down to what you believe are philosophical axioms. In a theistic system, the axiom is that the god of the system exists and it's will is primary.
There are other philosophical systems where the axiom(s) are based on observation of reality and our relationship to it. Objectivism, for example.
“The Nazis had their own “Morality Code.””
Define morality.
A truth is morals are God-made, external-based and unchangeable. Ethics, on the other hand are man-made, internal based and changing.
Morals are religious teachings, Ethics are societal teachings. Need only look as far as professional ethics rules to see they have little relation to moral teachings.
"Whatever I say it is."
Let's start with a definition.
Moral - concerning or relating to what is right and wrong in human behavior.
Can we agree on that?
Here is the best explanation I have found, written by two of the most influential of the "Founding Grandfathers":
Since Trump came on the scene, there's only one.
Nope because what are considered Morals predate the printing press.
True morality requires some type of outside direction. You can have a “morality” without religion or God, but it will be based on how you feel or think something should be.
A true morality has to be based on something outside of itself, or people will do as the Bible said they always do, whatever seems right to them. And they will claim their actions are moral.
And if you really think about it, you are angry at me because your feelings are telling you to be mad, but you know that you want everybody else to have the same moral stance as you have. If everybody would just act like you, everything would be perfect.
Not religion, all one need do is pick a religion to justify ones action.
Morality, true morality is pinned to God. If not one can logically conclude any action is moral by picking the appropriate moral framework.
For example, a leftist can point to global warming and justify the purging of everyone who disagrees. The fate of the whole world is more important than the lives of individual people. If one chooses to believe the life of one animal is no different that that another (bovine vs. homo sapiens) it is moral to limit the dietary choices of omnivores, at the point of a gun if need be. Or that that an unborn child is not a person. Or greater good vs. lesser good or.........
We currently live in the safe harbor of a society that still has ties to a morality based on a belief in God. Most atheists and agnostics have morality based on assumptions that are fundamentally based on an assumed spirituality or specialness of the human being.
Muslims can justify lying if it advances their religion. It’s called “Taqqiya.”
What do you say it is?
“The fallacy in this piece is that morality requires religion.”
Without true revealed religion, you can call any system of behavior “moral”. In that sense, one can have morality without religion. However, without God, there is no way to distinguish one system of morality from another. All are equal. In that case, and inevitably, the most moral person will always turn out to be the strongman who imposes his will on everyone else.
What has the printing press got to do with it?
I'm not saying the a religious based philosophy is invalid. Just that a religious based philosophy is not the only basis for morality.
I'm not at all angry. What gave you that idea.
So the Muslim morality, which is based on belief in the same god as Judeo-Christian morality, is justified?
Show me one culture or country where morality does not rest on religion.
Are both not "true revealed religion"?
that is an oxymoron, as one cannot be conservative and not be socially conservative.
like calling a white dog black, it just don’t work.
Does you definition of religion include a deity?
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