Cruz will not drop out after he is eliminated on April 26th.

The Gateway Pundit ^ | April 2, 2016 | Jim Hoft

[Mifflin]

Based on current delegate counts and poll numbers Ted Cruz will be mathematically unable to reach the delegate count required for him to win the Republican Presidential nomination. By the end April it will be clear that Ted Cruz has no chance of reaching the 1,237 delegates needed to win the nomination.

[kjam22]

No I’m not trashing the site. The site is excellent. So is the management. It does have some sore loser crybaby people posting here. Of course... everywhere does. Which will you be when Trumpy loses.... will you be a crybaby or a sore loser? :)

[Artcore]

Good grief, Limbaugh is going to be tap dancing his ample butt off today trying to defend the “only principled conservative’s” actions.

Rush could always talk about football or the continuing iPhone/Security saga if he doesn’t want to touch the Cruz sleaze machine.

[bray]

You’re right, it would be silly to let the stupid voters decide the candidate.

Pray America wakes

[Artcore]

BTW, does anybody know where Ted Cruz was this weekend? Trump was all over Wisconsin holding energetic rallies with excited supporters. Where was Mr. Haney?

Mr. Haney, please report to the Wisconsin Primary...

[ontap]

Silly is thinking you can bully your way into the nomination...whether you like it or not Trump plays by the same rules as every one else!!!

[VRWCarea51]

Trumpkins want everyone to drop out so Donnie can be
the FIRST AA Republican Nominee if he doesn’t have it locked up before the convention.

He is not quit a winner, but we should set aside the rules, give him some sprinkles on his Ice cream and call him the winner anyhow.

[ontap]

Cruz was in Montana winning 18 of the 24 delegates there!!!

[nathanbedford]

The need for the support of a majority of the delegates in eight states is only relevant for the first ballot. After the first ballot the "pledged" delegates can support whomever they want.

My information is that your assertion is just not true, the rule is not limited to one vote by its language:

Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination.

While it is true that the rules committee can change that rule it is also true that it will be difficult to change the rule given that most of the delegates are likely to be supporters of Trump or Cruz and would have a vested interest in keeping the rule as it stands to prevent consideration of another candidate.

I have heard many Trump supporters acknowledge that many of his delegates would gladly switch their votes away from Trump if they were permitted to do so. They might well be obligated against their desires to vote for Trump on the first ballot, but they are probably not obligated to vote to oppose or support rule changes, even on the first ballot (I presume the rules would have to be adopted by the body of the convention which would be controlled by Trump and Cruz).

These delegates could combine with GOPe delegates to amend the rule and abolish the protection which Trump alone now enjoys but which might well be extended to Cruz. The question is, whether Trump will stand with Cruz against the GOPe. More likely, Trump will do what he has always done buy politicians, buy leftist politicians and GOPe Rinos. As between Cruz and Trump, Trump's biography confirms that he is more likely to sell out. Cruz' biography confirms that he will stand alone against the establishment.

Trump supporters want you to believe that if you don't vote for Trump on the first of ballot or if you don't give him enough votes to reached 1237, the way is open to parachute in a new nominee. If he were forthright, Trump would tell you to keep the rule of 8 to prevent just that.

Trump won't say (yet), his supporters won't say, he has already threatened to bolt the party but that is never held against him here in this forum. But God help any Cruz supporter who lets slip that he will not vote for Trump if he is nominated.

If Trump does not qualify under the rules, the nomination should go according to the rules, just as it did on behalf of Abraham Lincoln.

[kabar]

2nd is 2nd ... doesn’t matter by how much. It’s a runoff.

It is NOT a run off. It is an entirely new process. Depending on state rules on who is bound and not bound after the first round, the selection process opens the nomination to all including a "fresh face" as Rove calls it. You are deluded if you think Cruz will win on the second ballot.

And what if Cruz essentially steals the nomination, what happens to the 37% of the voters who have voted for Trump during the primary process? Do you think they will rally around Cruz in the General Election? Many of them are new voters. Trump has energized the process creating record turnouts in the primaries as well as viewers for the debates. A Cruz nomination (doubtful) will be a Pyrrhic victory. The only way to unite most of the party is to support the guy with the most delegates and the most votes.

I’m not convinced he REALLY wants the job. He want’s the power and fame... but I don’t think he really wants the job.

One of the most ridiculous statements I have seen on FR in many years. Trump is putting his heart and soul on the campaign trail, done more interviews with the MSM than the rest of the field combined, and put his own money where his mouth is. The idea that he wasn't serious about seeking the position was trotted out there last July and you are now spouting that nonsense again? You don't put yourself thru this grinding process and public scrutiny without wanting the nomination.

[Mifflin]

CRUZ is a sniveling snake.

He tells Kasich to drop out, because he cannot mathematically reach 1237, but this raging Hypocrite, Cruz, will not do what he is asking another candidate to do.

Scum ball.

[ontap]

They’re really going to be pissed off when that doesn’t happen...they say their leaving for good!! And taking their ball with them!!

[RitaOK]

Cruz has no chance at VP if he stays in despite the math and only to stop the frontrunner at convention.

Cruz has thrown in as the mule for the Establishment to justify doing away entirely with the peoples vote.

This is not okay with the people. Expect a backlash.

[Artcore]

Cruz was in Montana winning 18 of the 24 delegates there!!!

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Winning...really? I thought the Montana primary wasn’t until June 7?

[kabar]

All of these projection about delegate count totally discount the approximately 400 delegates who are currently not pledged to any active candidate.

How many of them are bound by state rules to vote for the candidate per the results of the primary on the first round or even later rounds?

[bray]

So why not do the General election that way? The GOP is absolutely corrupt.

[ontap]

Do you think they will rally around Cruz in the General Election

I would guess they would vote for Hilary or stay home....free country....personally I'm fine with it!!!

[taxcontrol]

Guys, let me show you why Cruz staying in works against the GOPe’s plans.

Understand this simple fact. At the GOP convention, rules come before delegates get to vote. And it is the rule 40 that is causing a problem with the GOPe. They no longer like rule 40 because it is now their ox that is getting gored. Preventing the GOPe from messing with rule 40 goes a LONG WAY to preventing shenanigans.

Also understand that if Trump limps into the convention with (maybe) enough votes to win on the first round, the vote on rules still comes first. If all it takes is a few Trump delegates to vote for changes to rule 40, If the GOPe can bribe or promise their way to stripping off a few Trump delegates, all of a sudden rule 40 goes out the window. That is bad news for Trump’s chances.

Now if Cruz stays in, he too will benefit from Rule 40 as he will likely be the only other candidate to obtain the 8 state threshold. Now this is where Cruz and Trump align. Both benefit from keeping rule 40. That would mean that the total delegate count in support of keeping rule 40 would be closer to a super majority. It might even be possible to bind rule 40 to more than just the first round of voting with a super majority.

Having a super majority will make it MUCH more difficult for the GOPe to poach or bribe off any delegates because instead of needing a dozen or so, they would need hundreds.

Dont forget that Kasich is still in. Yes, he has no mathematical chance if winning the primary fight. However his votes, combined with Rubio, still represent a fairly large block of delegates. And they will likely vote any way they can to hurt Trump. I suspect that they would like to throw out rule 40 as fast as they can.

In short, in this convention, if rule 40 remains in place, the GOPe lose.

[DouglasKC]

Dropping out would open the door to the GOPe playing shenanigans at the convention. By staying in, Cruz has a vested interest in keeping rule 40 in place.

Ummm...okay. It seems pretty obvious that Cruz is doing this FOR the GOPe. There really isn't any other reason. He's not going to get the nomination in any round. It's not going to happen no matter what. The only reason he stays in is to stop Trump so the GOPe can put in their own candidate...probably Paul Ryan.

[taxcontrol]

pls see my post #137

[bray]

And if Cruz steals the election, where do you think all those new Trump voters are going to go? Not to someone who managed to steal their votes from them.