Posted on 04/04/2016 5:33:15 AM PDT by Mifflin
<< You pretend a machine that simply does not exist. >>
You pretend Rules and definitions count, far more than the people’s vote, just because they *do* exist.
“The “reality” is that Cruz will achieve 1237 first, and become the nominee.”
The only way Cruz gets to 1,237 is by way of party insiders giving it to him at the convention. He can’t get there through the primary, as he doesn’t have the requisite level of support among the people.
If you think that’s the way to elect a president, then you don’t really believe in the fundamental principles of America. The Framers despised the very idea of political parties, precisely because of the very type of thing you’re advocating now. They fought a bloody revolution to put political power into the hands of The People, not a tiny cabal of powerful insiders.
Tell you what. If the Republican party chooses a nominee who hasn’t received the largest number of votes from the people, the party will be no more. That’s about as plain as anyone can say it.
The rules call for a MAJORITY OF DELEGATES.
....NOT a plurality!!!!
Had you noticed that it is the electoral college that elects the President and NOT “the popular vote”?
Move on, Larry. You and I are speaking different languages.
That’s all and good but the nomination doesn’t go to the front runner...it goes to the guy who can amass 1237 delegates!!!
just because they did not vote foe Trump doesn’t mean their votes don’t count!!!You might as well learn to live with it...no 1237 no nomination!!
check the posting history.
posted once last year, year before once and did not post for year .
He or she is an establishment troll
These droppings,... er,.... I mean, ....drop ins, are common during the election cycle.
The sleep in the park thinking is pretty funny. When the Rules are prohibitive for democracy to work in a nomination, it is demoralizing to the voters in the fields who bothered to come to the ballot box in such great numbers.
It is amazing what TRUMP has taught the American voters about the nominating “process”, since Civics 101 has been cast into the ash can for a couple of generations.
I am just so happy you are with us, together, going forward.
Thanks, Rita
happy to be here and going forward.
I think rule 40 is for every round of voting.
Rule 40 is but the requirement for pledged delegates to support a particular candidate is not. On subsequent ballots they are free to support the nomination of another candidate.
No, rule 40 states that a nominee must have won a majority of the delegates in 8 states.
Yes, but what stops the majority of delegates in those eight states after the first ballot from supporting someone other than the one they were pledged to support on the first ballot?
Your right, they can after the first ballot. My question on this rule 40 is ....it seems that it states that a nominee’s delegates can not be counted unless he meets that 8 state minimum...and the nominee would be the nominee whether after one or 14 ballots, wouldn’t it. This rule 40 would seem to take effect after one or any number of ballots because it effects the final nominee?
I’m telling you that, wow, an Open Convulsing multi ballot Convention with DONALD TRUMP as the center of attention....gonna make the Super Bowl look like a nats fart.
My point is that on the second ballot the state delegations could support the nominations of anyone they wished and not be bound by who they were pledged to. Thus the majority of any eight state delegations could send a letter to the chair that now support Paul Ryan, or anyone else, and thus have his name entered for nomination.
good point. Will it be allowed? Big fight coming up, good ratings for sure.
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