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Threatening letter sent to Donald Trump's son, Eric
CBS News ^ | March 18, 2016

Posted on 03/17/2016 11:26:04 PM PDT by Pinkbell

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To: nclaurel
What is it with Trump supporters? If we aren't jumping up and down shrieking at the top of our lungs, you think we don't have feelings? When did expressed feelings become the standard?

No, you wouldn't like me. I'm the kind of guy who sets his feelings aside so I can cut someone's car away from around them and still think while they are crying and moaning. You probably wouldn't like me at all.

Don't be so quick to judge.

141 posted on 03/19/2016 9:39:06 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

You are the judgmental one also. I don’t expect jumping up and down or shrieking, but I expect respect, dignity and truthfulness. Moveon.org and BLM have done enough of that for a liftetime.

As an RN of 40 years I hope if I ever have someone cut my car away from around me they would show human compassion and not robotics. But then that is what I think God would want.


142 posted on 03/19/2016 11:30:26 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel
Yes, I am judgemental. Guilty. I make no bones about it. When I see something that is BS, I call it as I see it. BS gets people maimed and killed, wrecks things, and otherwise wreaks havoc.

Perhaps what you don't understand is that the person who is speaking truth may not say what you want to hear the way you want to hear it, but if you want to get all balled up over how I tell you to move before something runs over you, You will never see the compassion in what I did.

As an RN, surely you understand compassion vs robotics--I have seen both from members of that profession. You also understand that sometimes you will cause short term pain or discomfort for the long term benefit of the patient. Do think about it.

143 posted on 03/19/2016 7:56:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I see you as rude not informative. Maybe I have missed your less rude, harsh posts. But no matter we are Americans with freedom of opinion at least at this point.

It just isn’t the country I once thought. I am sadden to have my last years be with that knowledge. I actually believed that there were two parties in politics and this election has opened my eyes to the collusion of the uniparty. I won’t support or aid the sell out however.

Cruz is part of the establishment and I contributed frequently when he ran for senator because I did not think he was. We can agree to disagree or not. Nothing will change my mind about him.


144 posted on 03/20/2016 5:53:31 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel
Funny thing. A friend had signs up in his commercial shop. Those signs said things like "close bay doors", or "This receptacle for metal scrap only", and other basic messages which make things move smoothly and save a fortune on utility costs (especially in North Dakota in Winter).

No one paid any attention to them.

Not a bit.

Someone would be standing, facing the sign, dumping paper trash in the metal scrap bin--partly forbidden because of the potential to start a fire if hot bits were tossed in.

January in North Dakota, and the bay door to the outside would be wide open.

In frustration, he put up a new set of signs which said "Close this F****ng Door" and No F*****g trash in this container, for metal scrap only.

Oddly enough, people paid attention to those.

Sometimes you have to be rude to get people to listen.

Believe it or not, I started out calmly warning of why I find a particular candidate unacceptable. In the 'real' world, I prefer to speak softly, but there I also get to use the 'big stick'. Here, it's all 'verbal'.

Because of the response around here, predominantly ranging from hostility to gibberish, I just cut to the chase and start with the second set of signs. Sorry if that offended you.

Enough of all that.

What opened my eyes to the uniparty (new name, same thing) was seeing the constant progression of abuses conducted against the citizenry by our government, from local politics: Where I grew up I knew quite a few principled people well, who fought the good fight, but could never seem to make progress because they were often undermined by the supposedly forthright Republicans in their political fights against the Corruption of the local Democrats.

Then there were national news abuses involving egregious and open displays of murderous force against the citizenry, often over gun control. The ink was barely dry on the 1968 Gun Control Act when the ATF kicked down the door of Kenyon Ballew in the middle of the night and shot the man in the head when he grabbed his pistol not knowing what was going but ready to defend himself and his family (all over a dummy grenade on the mantel some 'informant' had called in). Ruby Ridge and Waco were far in the future yet when I saw the abuse going on, and those are just a few of many instances that made the national news. Many more can't even be linked, because there was no story done on them--no one who knew anything would talk to any press--they had a job, they had kids, anyone asks, they don't know what you are talking about.

It is amazing how 300 people in a dance club can NOT see a stabbing take place in the middle of the dance floor, and how many of those people can fit in a couple of two-stall bathrooms ('officially' that is).

Even then, well before Ford and Rockefeller in POTUS and VEEP, the stink was present.

Every election since, the serious Conservatives have been marginalized, some have been smeared as kooks or 'crazies' or 'extremists' (and some are), some, behind the scenes, woke up dead in the morning, victims of 'accidents' or "suicide" or seemingly unconnected tragic events.

(How likely is it that a man would commit suicide: "repeatedly slashed his own wrists and throat". Put your RN anatomy and physiology classes (and experience) to work on that.)

Others would go to meetings and be sick for days afterwards...until they started bringing their own coffee. Bottled water was a boon, too.

So, I moved to a different state, mostly for educational, and then employment reasons, thinking this was a local thing.

It is local--everywhere you go.

I'm down to the fact that there are two basic forces in the universe. They may have different brands on the label, they may sing different school songs, but the main forces, good and evil, cross all the other lines.

Corruption, for fun and profit, is dominant in our political landscape. Why else would so much catering to such a small and sinful fraction of the population against the will of much of the rest come out of DC and statehouses and even courthouses around the country?

It is everywhere.

Its best weapon is to either compromise the good (in which case they aren't so perfect) or, when that fails, to smear them.

Smear them hard and often, distort their words if there is nothing else, and to publish such a volume of material that Jesus Himself would be thought a sneakthief --after all, He said He would "come as a thief in the night", didn't he?

In today's media climate, My Saviour would be derided as a cat burglar. He would be blamed for having solidarity with every crowbar and jimmy wielding procurer of stolen goods across the country. Bloggers would blog on what other bloggers said that other bloggers said and pack the internet, and eventually news cycles (who would have stories on what the bloggers were saying) and the Deceiver would howl with laughter.

The thing that brought Cruz to my attention was that he was in the trenches, fighting this stuff, this pervasive evil. Of all the Congress, he was rating best at doing what he had promised to do.

The people who try to say he is becoming establishment or is establishment are saying this is out of everything from original intent to an epiphany to being 'just a po'boy' and needing the money so desperately he'd sell out the principles he has fought for in the Congress (and his mother, too). Others say he is a Republican, incumbent, and as such needs to be purged from office! (funny they don't mention any of the Democrats).

Oh the po'boy thing plays really well against the 'classy' Billionaire who would never sell out for a profit, but donated to Hillary and Schumer and DeBlasio, because it was "business" not because he supported them or anything.

I have trouble resisting pointing out the Gordian convolutions in logic. Sorry about that.

I think we agree, that something needs to be done. We just don't agree on who would be the best person to have doing it.

Have a pleasant Sunday.

145 posted on 03/20/2016 8:53:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks I hope your day is pleasant too. ( dang it is scary on what we do agree). No one thought more highly of Cruz when he ran for senate than I. Even on a limited retirement I sent contributions. He was initially my 1st choice, but the more he did in and after Iowa the more I saw a dangerous, globalist fraud.

Now he is full on board with the lying uniparty and allowing Beck to be at his side making bizarre claims about the Rapture, Scalia and now a Morman prophesy. His choice of friends now foretells his choice if elected. I will never be party to that.


146 posted on 03/20/2016 11:00:15 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel
Careful, though, reread the articles about what he supposedly did. A lot of that is misleading, and you have to go to the raw data when you can.

There has been a tremendous new media assault designed to portray Cruz as something he is not, and cui bono? The guy who maintains a Marketing Department who knows the 'reality TV game' and can play the media like a virtuoso plays a Stradivarius.

As for supporters, well, any person in the public eye is going to get those, running the full spectrum of sanity, some more out in the public eye than others. Just because they support Cruz, does not mean Cruz supports everything they say.

I have had friends who suffered through their own battles with their demons and addiction and there were times when I doubted their sanity. You don't throw them over the side, not when they need you most. That doesn't mean you believe there are microphones in every bush and constant surveillance from orbit, either. Although, I must admit, it is pretty easy to get away from the cameras in the trees around these parts...(8^D)

147 posted on 03/20/2016 11:19:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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148 posted on 03/20/2016 11:25:20 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yes I do research and Cruz does willing accept Beck so he has poor decision making. I could care about someone who is mentally ill but would not escort them about the nation to say God sent me or allowed Scalia to die for me. Cruz is making a mistake that’s can’t be justified. Even the Bush dynasty is rationalized by need of money, but Stabby serves no purpose.


149 posted on 03/20/2016 11:32:27 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel
Even Beck has 1st Amendment Rights.

Look at it this way.

If Cruz threw him under the bus (anywhere, anytime) he would be decried as "having turned on his friend, and he'll do the same to you".

It is another no-win situation, as far as those opposed to him go. Nothing he says or does will be right, and anything he does will be presented in the worst possible light.

Odd, too that it has been a matter of record that Heidi Cruz was asked to sit on a panel on North American trade back when, but today, the internet search engine I use returns seven pages of blogged hit pieces (some of which use other blogs as sources) before you even begin to get close to the actual first hand information. No coordination in the blogosphere attacks, right?

150 posted on 03/20/2016 12:11:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Well blogs suck. If I can’t find original facts, quotes, video, it is of little to no value

As for Beck, I think Cruz would be seen as executing good judgment to send him on his way. Or at a minimum asks Beck to temper the nutty stuff. The same situation would exist if elected. He would have Stabby mouthing off or make a stand against nutty.


151 posted on 03/20/2016 12:35:02 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel
I agree, asking Glenn to chill out a little would have been a good idea--and for all we know, he did.

But Beck is getting more coverage than he has since he left Fox...and lives in a media world, not a political one.

152 posted on 03/20/2016 12:44:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I agree but this should not be about Beck. Obama has taken America to her knees this election doesn’t need Beck nor does Cruz. Too few are even Christian today much less as radical as Beck so he really hurts Cruz with average voters.


153 posted on 03/20/2016 4:02:28 PM PDT by nclaurel
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