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March 10, 12 GOP Primary Primer (VI, GU, DC): Closing Times, Polling Data, Delegate Formulas
Various, including state GOP websites, thegreenpapers.com, Real Clear Politics, Frontloadingblogspot ^ | 3/10/2016 | Self

Posted on 03/10/2016 8:40:28 AM PST by NYRepublican72

Caucus held on March 10, 2016
9 of 2,472 delegates at stake
(6 likely bound)

Conventions held on March 12, 2016
28 of 2,472 delegates at stake
(19 likely bound)



TOPICS: Extended News; Free Republic; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2016primaries; dc; gopprimaries; gu; vi
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For primary dates and times:
Official GOP websites for territories/district.

For delegate allocation:
The Green Papers
Frontloading Blogspot

For polling data:
Real Clear Politics

1 posted on 03/10/2016 8:40:28 AM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: NYRepublican72

As an aside, Cruz is the only one that has at least six delegate selections on the ballot in the USVI.

Rubio and Trump have three each. Kasich has no delegates pledged to him.

The ceiling for Cruz is between 0 and 6.
The ceiling for Trump and Rubio is between 0 and 3.
Kasich will not get a delegate.

The USVI was a mess. They wanted a different format, but didn’t get the change into the RNC by the deadline. They were forced to use their 2012 rules.


2 posted on 03/10/2016 8:44:41 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: NYRepublican72

I didn’t know non-state territories and districts could vote or have delegates. Is that constitutional?


3 posted on 03/10/2016 8:48:25 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

No one cares since US territories don’t get a vote in November.

They don’t really contribute to the delegate count and that’s not where the big fight is.

This kind of stuff isn’t even of interest to political junkies.


4 posted on 03/10/2016 8:51:06 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Jim 0216

Yes - this is a party function not a constitutional election


5 posted on 03/10/2016 8:51:08 AM PST by IFly4Him
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To: Jim 0216

Selecting the nominee is a function of party rules. Traditionally, both parties apportion delegates to the US Territories and DC.

Most territories get the minimum nine (9) delegates. Puerto Rico gets 23. DC gets 19 on the Republican side.

Only DC can vote in the Presidential election by virtue of the 23rd Amendment.


6 posted on 03/10/2016 8:51:18 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: goldstategop

I believe the territories do matter for Rule 40 purposes (at least those territories that bind delegates).

Ironically, the first WTA primary on March 15 is NOT held on the mainland, it’s in the Northern Marianas Islands — the former home to “Made in America” clothing.


7 posted on 03/10/2016 8:54:50 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: Jim 0216
I didn’t know non-state territories and districts could vote or have delegates. Is that constitutional?

The party is a private entity. They could have delegates from N. Korea, Jupiter, or Mordor, if they wanted.
8 posted on 03/10/2016 8:54:51 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: goldstategop

It’s an interest this year because of rule 40(b). A territorial contest counts as one of the 8 a candidate is required to have to be nominated.


9 posted on 03/10/2016 8:55:09 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Jim 0216
This is the only time they vote....not in the general election.

Frankly...this shouldn't be...and neither should Puerto Rico.

10 posted on 03/10/2016 8:56:43 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

A US territory is not a state.


11 posted on 03/10/2016 8:57:05 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Rule 40 is ridiculous as a whole...and is quite new....2012 ??


12 posted on 03/10/2016 8:58:26 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: NYRepublican72

19 delegates for DC?


13 posted on 03/10/2016 8:59:17 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

19 is right. Disproportionate to the number of Republicans that actually live in the district.

The actual formula goes by state/territory population plus 3 RNC delegates plus add-ons for Republican elected officials like governor, holding a state house, Senators, how the state voted in the last Presidential election, etc).


14 posted on 03/10/2016 9:05:38 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: goldstategop

https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod-static-ngop-pbl/docs/Rules_of_the_Republican+Party_FINAL_S14090314.pdf

Rule 5, section 2 of the Rules of the Republican Party list the territories in the section that lists the states by their region.

Rule 14 establishes delegates among the territories.

While rule 40(b) does not specify “territories”, neither does rule 37(a) which states:

(a) Upon all subjects before the convention requiring a roll call, the states shall be called in alphabetical order.

If the absence of the word territories in 40(b) is used to specify only States, then the absence of the word territories in 37(a) must also be used to specify only States. Which means that none of the territories will vote at all at the convention.

Obviously that is not how 37(a) is interpreted by the RNC, so neither is 40(b) interpreted that way.


15 posted on 03/10/2016 9:27:31 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Sacajaweau

No, it’s been around for a while. They upped it from 5 contests to 8 in 2012 to prevent another Ron Paul situation where Romney got less than 90% of the ballots on the first vote.


16 posted on 03/10/2016 9:29:14 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: NYRepublican72

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona territory not the state and Vice President Charles Curtis was born in Kansas Territory a year before statehood. He was Herbert Hoover’s Vice President.


17 posted on 03/10/2016 9:36:40 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: NYRepublican72

I wonder who will win DC. I can’t see a Cruz or trump or Kasick or Rubio. Lol. This one may be interesting just for fun.


18 posted on 03/10/2016 12:17:57 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I don’t believe anyone had passed the threshold for rule 40 as of yet.


19 posted on 03/10/2016 12:26:41 PM PST by Kegger
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To: Kegger

Not yet, Trump has 7. He should get #8 next Tuesday.


20 posted on 03/10/2016 12:27:39 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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