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Lying Press? Germans Lose Faith in the Fourth Estate
Der Spiegel ^ | February 24, 2016 – 05:44 PM | (Spiegel Staff)

Posted on 02/24/2016 11:25:32 AM PST by Olog-hai

Germans are losing faith in their media. Nowhere is this more apparent than in mistrust of refugee crisis media coverage. Where did journalists go wrong? And how much of this skepticism reflects a preference for rumors over facts? [...]

It is a phenomenon that defies simple description. According to polls, 40 percent of Germans believe the media are not credible. And the loudest of them all, people like Tatjana Festerling, an organizer with the anti-immigrant, Islamophobic PEGIDA movement, have even taken to calling on the public to get out the pitchforks to chase journalists out of newspaper offices.

The criticism is mainly directed at reporting on the refugee crisis. According to a recent survey by the Allensbach Institute, a respected German polling firm, only a quarter of Germans believe that the media paint a correct picture of the level of education and share of women and children among incoming refugees. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bertelsmann; europeanunion; eussr; fifthcolumn; fourthestate; germany; liberalelites; liberalmedia; media; pegida

1 posted on 02/24/2016 11:25:32 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Who are they going to believe?

The “newspaper of record” or their own lying eyes?


2 posted on 02/24/2016 11:26:45 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds very familiar.


3 posted on 02/24/2016 11:26:53 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Olog-hai

Der Speigel, calling people who are under attack by muzzie rapefugees, “Islamophobes” is really going to help your media credibility. Sounds like trying to browbeat people into belief, a muzzie tactic.


4 posted on 02/24/2016 11:31:04 AM PST by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Olog-hai
Tatjana Festerling, an organizer with the anti-immigrant, Islamophobic PEGIDA movement...

Der Spiegel had to throw in "Islamophobic" there. They just couldn't help themselves. More evidence of how shamelessly manipulative the press is, in their own words.

5 posted on 02/24/2016 11:31:51 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: BenLurkin
Lying Press? Germans Lose Faith in the Fourth Estate

Willkommen in der Partei, Kumpel.

6 posted on 02/24/2016 11:33:39 AM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Olog-hai

The german media is doing all it can to help bring about the downfall of germany and its replacement by screaming subhuman savages.


7 posted on 02/24/2016 11:33:46 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Leaning Right

I support any and all Islamolytic treatments.


8 posted on 02/24/2016 11:34:39 AM PST by alstewartfan (CRUZ OR LOSE, AMERICA!)
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10 posted on 02/24/2016 11:36:50 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Olog-hai

Just because The Ministry Of Propaganda has been lying to them for years is no reason for them to lose faith...../s


11 posted on 02/24/2016 11:44:48 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Olog-hai
* Germans are losing faith in their media. *

We lost our faith in the media about 1975.

In fact, we should hold a funeral for the death of Truth in the media.

12 posted on 02/24/2016 11:45:09 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Olog-hai
“Der Speigel, calling people who are under attack by muzzie rapefugees, “Islamophobes” is really going to help your media credibility. Sounds like trying to browbeat people into belief, a muzzie tactic.”

You have to cut Der Speigel a little more slack that the American press. They have a lot more copies of Goebbels instructions on how to manipulate the peasants than we do in this country. And it's in their native language!

13 posted on 02/24/2016 11:47:18 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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So, it’s taken them from the time of the Wiemar Republic until now to figure out???

NOT very smart, are they??


14 posted on 02/24/2016 11:51:16 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Olog-hai
A long and disappointing, but not surprising, article. The author systematically denies, marginalizes, or explains away claims of press inadequacy and it is only when we reach the last sentence that the readers get any sense of "well, perhaps there's some truth to it". In short, the medium is not, nor has it ever been, a satisfactory watchdog on itself.

They're watching the anger build and dismissing it with contempt as unreasonable. But the anger isn't really to be dismissed.

15 posted on 02/24/2016 11:57:52 AM PST by Billthedrill
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So, it's taken them from the time of the Wiemar Republic until now to figure out??? --- NOT very smart, are they??

Heck, Goebbels was a piker compared to the lot we have coming out of Journalism schools nowadays.

16 posted on 02/24/2016 11:59:22 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Olog-hai

The Germans are just now losing faith in the press??? WOW! They are out of touch with reality.


17 posted on 02/24/2016 11:59:56 AM PST by Savage Beast (We see an ocean of crashing waves, as black holes create a violent storm in the fabric of space-time)
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To: Olog-hai

In Germany as here, the Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.


18 posted on 02/24/2016 12:25:26 PM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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Remember what we've read about the Palmer raids in 1919 on, until power players stopped them, and Communist agents flooded unchecked into the country.

Newspapers, academe, and elite society were Feliks Dzherzhinsky's earliest and priority targets. They've been paying off for the NKVD, MGB, KGB, and international Communism ever since.

The Left is allowing the refugee surge into Europe. It works for them: it disrupts society and will hugely stress the middle class as Moslem jihadi attacks increase.

It's evil genius. Dzherzhinsky is laughing in hell.

19 posted on 02/24/2016 6:58:46 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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