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Ted Cruz Has A Huge Math Problem
Fivethirtyeight ^ | 2/19/16 | DAVID WASSERMAN

Posted on 02/19/2016 7:42:27 AM PST by Zenjitsuman

Cruz’s short-term dilemma has received plenty of attention: Donald Trump is on the verge of a big victory in the South Carolina Republican primary, according to most polls, and could easily capture all 50 of the Palmetto State’s delegates. And if Cruz can’t beat Trump in South Carolina — a Southern state with a large proportion of evangelical and very conservative voters, Cruz’s supposed bread and butter — what “SEC Primary” states can he win on Super Tuesday, March 1?

But Cruz also faces a longer-term, potentially more devastating math problem that has received less attention: The states that are his most natural fits — those with the highest proportions of evangelical voters — are also the least likely to award their delegates on a winner-take-all basis. In other words, Cruz’s votes may not translate into delegates nearly as efficiently as his rivals’

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; election
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Nate Silvers odds on the winners and losers in SC.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/south-carolina-republican/

1 posted on 02/19/2016 7:42:27 AM PST by Zenjitsuman
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To: Zenjitsuman

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/south-carolina-republican/


2 posted on 02/19/2016 7:44:43 AM PST by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Ted Cruz Has A Huge Math Problem

He could fix it if he uses COMMONCORE.

3 posted on 02/19/2016 7:45:39 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (My Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now!)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Dammit Jim, I’m a lawyer, not a mathematician!


4 posted on 02/19/2016 7:47:04 AM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: JPG

Thanks... I have to admit, Nate’s system has performed pretty well. This is the RIGHT way to project. With probability bands. It may look cowardly. But, it reflects reality.


5 posted on 02/19/2016 7:47:58 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Disagree. While that matters to some people, it’s just not a big enough deal, nationwide, to move votes and delegates.


6 posted on 02/19/2016 7:49:32 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Zenjitsuman

This article is why a vote for Cruz is a vote for the status quo every bit as much as a vote for Bush. The GOPe constructed this primary calendar in order to blunt the campaign of exactly the Cruz type of candidate. Very conservative and evangelical voters going for an “insurgent” ideologically conservative candidate is the plan. Trump is the only candidate capable of blowing up the plan.


7 posted on 02/19/2016 7:49:34 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Zenjitsuman

Wow! Based on the link!


8 posted on 02/19/2016 7:51:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Trump has a huge math problem too. In a two race both Cruz and Rubio (i.e. Cruz v Trump or Rubio v Trump), Trump get his butt handed to him. I don’t remember the Rubio number, but if its just Cruz v Trump, Trump loses by 16pts.

Sad trumpeters...y’all better hope Bush, Rubio, et al, stay in the race.


9 posted on 02/19/2016 7:51:14 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

He could fix it if he uses COMMON CORE.

That appears to be the math system used by Murdoch’s NBC/WSJ push polls.


10 posted on 02/19/2016 7:52:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: Zenjitsuman

There are many strong conservatives in SC. They don’t count for much in the primaries due to the fact that Dems can vote in the Rep primary. I have heard through some campaign volunteers that, unofficially, as much as 20-25% of Trumps support is coming from Dem crossovers, although that seems a bit high. I also know that in my own little county in NC, there is an operation underway for D’s to register as I’s for the primary and they are encouraging them to vote Trump.

I don’t believe anyone will hit the magic number, and there will be a brokered convention, then all hell will break loose.


11 posted on 02/19/2016 7:53:19 AM PST by jstaff
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Trump has a huge math problem too. In a two race both Cruz and Rubio (i.e. Cruz v Trump or Rubio v Trump), Trump get his butt handed to him.

According to what poll? NBC/WSJ is not credible. Has no internal data and contradicts all other polls from same time period. Trump is dominating Cruz in every demographic.

12 posted on 02/19/2016 7:53:22 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Not at all. If Ted is successful at reassembling the Reagan Coalition, he wins.


13 posted on 02/19/2016 7:54:27 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: SomeCallMeTim
I think that you are correct here: Thanks... I have to admit, Nates system has performed pretty well. This is the RIGHT way to project. With probability bands. It may look cowardly. But, it reflects reality
14 posted on 02/19/2016 7:54:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Something that may sink in even more to the evangelical heavy states to come up: Donald has proposed to fix the Roe v. Wade problem in a more direct manner than, AFAIK, any politician to date.

Call it unicorns and snake oil, but you can’t fault Trump for not being bold, and this isn’t even out of the mouth of some “fire baptized” fundamentalist or rock ribbed Catholic. It’s out of the pedestrian liberal PCUSA Trump.

Sounds like he really truly wants to win.


15 posted on 02/19/2016 7:54:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Axeslinger

I believe they will stay in the race because they hate Cruz. They’d rather see Trump possibly destroy the country than see Cruz awarded for being what THEY perceive to be a traitor.


16 posted on 02/19/2016 7:55:34 AM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Axeslinger

Hypothetical matchups are worth their printed weight in salt until such a race becomes real, which is to say, about 12 cents. I remember scores of hypotheticals foretelling both a dead heat and a win for Romney, between Romney and Obama.

The fact of the matter is that voters themselves are not very accurate when it comes to predicting what they would do. Plus there’s a huge reality-based information gap between when the questions are asked and when election day actually comes around. Anything can happen.


17 posted on 02/19/2016 7:56:42 AM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Which Trump is picking away at daily.

What really hit me is that he just yesterday proposed to do something about Roe v. Wade. Talk about poised to become YUUUUGE once the disbelief dissipates.


18 posted on 02/19/2016 7:56:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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"a Southern state with a large proportion of evangelical and very conservative voters,"

How conservative can they be if they keep voting in Lindsay Graham?

19 posted on 02/19/2016 7:56:59 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The Pope boosted Trumps numbers. Evangelicals are the only Christian Soldiers not taking orders from Rome.

Build the Wall Piss the Pope off.


20 posted on 02/19/2016 7:57:08 AM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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