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"I Guess It's Food Stamps": 400,000 Jeopardized As Giant State Pension Fund Plans 50% Benefit Cuts
Zero Hedge ^ | 02/19/2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/19/2016 7:27:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Dale Dorsey isn't happy.

After working 33 years, he's facing a 55% cut to his pension benefits, a blow which he says will "cripple" his family and imperil the livelihood of his two children, one of whom is in the fourth grade and one of whom is just entering high school.

Dorsey attended a town hall meeting in Kansas City on Tuesday where retirees turned out for a discussion on "massive" pension cuts proposed by the Central States Pension Fund, which covers 400,000 participants, and which will almost certainly go broke within the next decade.

"A controversial 2014 law allowed the pension to propose [deep] cuts, many of them by half or more, as a way to perhaps save the fund," The Kansas City Star wrote earlier this week adding that "two much smaller pensions also have sought similar relief under the law, and still more pensions are significantly underfunded."

"What's happening to us is a microcosm of what's going to happen to the rest of the pensions in the United States," said Jay Perry, a longtime Teamsters member.

Jay is probably correct.

Public sector pension funds are grossly underfunded in places like Chicago and Houston, while private sector funds are struggling to deal with rock bottom interest rates, which put pressure on expected returns and thus drive the present value of funds' liabilities higher.

Illinois' pension burden has brought the state to its knees financially speaking and in November, Springfield was forced to miss a $560 million payment to its retirement fund. In the private sector, GM said on Thursday that it will sell 20- and 30-year bonds in order to meet its pension obligations

"At the end of last year GM's U.S. hourly pension plan was underfunded by $10.4 billion," The New York Times writes. "About $61 billion of the obligations were funded for the plan's roughly 360,000 pensioners." Maybe it's time for tax payers to bail themselves out. 

Speaking of GM, Kenneth Feinberg - the man who oversaw the distribution of cash compensation to victims who were involved in accidents tied to faulty ignition switches - is now tasked with deciding whether the Central States Pension Fund's proposal to cut benefits passes legal muster. "Central States' proposal would allow the retirees to work and still collect their reduced benefits. But some are no longer able to work, and the idea didn't seem plausible to others," the Star goes on to note.

"You know anybody hiring a 73-year-old mechanic?" Rod Heelan asked Feinberg. "I'm available."

"I'll have to go find a job. I don't know. I'm 68," Gary Meyer of Concordia, Mo said. "It would probably be a minimum-wage job." 

To be sure, retirees' frustrations are justified. That said, the fund is simply running out of money. "We simply can't stay afloat if we continue to pay out $3.46 in pension benefits for every $1 paid in from contributing employers," a letter to retirees reads. 

The fund is projected to go broke by 2026. Without the proposed cuts, no benefits at all will be paid from that point forward

According to letters shared with The Star, cuts range from around 40% to 61%. "[The] average pension loss was more than $1,400 a month," the paper says.

As for what will become of those who depend upon their benefits to survive, the above quoted Gary Meyer summed it up best: "I guess food stamps. Hopefully not. It would be a last resort."

Don't worry Gary, you aren't alone...


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article60760061.html#storylink=c...



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; foodstamps; funny; humor; kansas; kansascity; karma; pensionfunds; tylerdurden; tylerdurdenmyass; zerohedge
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1 posted on 02/19/2016 7:27:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What kind of an idiot retires with kids still at home?


2 posted on 02/19/2016 7:30:27 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

Hey, maybe his kids have disabilities, who knows?


3 posted on 02/19/2016 7:31:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: caver
What kind of an idiot retires with kids still at home?

My typical UAW member neighbor when I lived in Michigan.


4 posted on 02/19/2016 7:32:05 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: caver

I see a lot of GM this and that....maybe he retired from GM after 20 years at 38 years old and expected the lotto for the rest of his life. Obama fixed that for him.


5 posted on 02/19/2016 7:32:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: caver

These days it may be the only way either makes it.


6 posted on 02/19/2016 7:33:49 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

True, I don’t know the whole story.


7 posted on 02/19/2016 7:33:57 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Gaffer

Democrats will fix it for him again.

Google “Theresa Ghilarducci” and you will see what their plan is.


8 posted on 02/19/2016 7:34:05 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: caver

i was just thinking that how is someone retired with a 4th grader and a 9th grader


9 posted on 02/19/2016 7:34:19 AM PST by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: SeekAndFind
"GM said on Thursday that it will sell 20- and 30-year bonds in order to meet its pension obligations."

Before anybody lines up for those they may want to check how bad bondholders got screwed in the GM Obama bankruptcy.

10 posted on 02/19/2016 7:35:17 AM PST by circlecity
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To: caver

Maybe he married late and had kids when he was in his 50’s or 60’s. Trump has a 9 year old son and he is 69.


11 posted on 02/19/2016 7:36:32 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SeekAndFind

The real crisis has not even started yet. When everything crashes, people’s IRAs and 401Ks will be seized. You heard it here first.


12 posted on 02/19/2016 7:37:52 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: caver

One with a defined benefit plan.


13 posted on 02/19/2016 7:38:09 AM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Maybe he married late and had kids when he was in his 50’s or 60’s. Trump has a 9 year old son and he is 69.

Trump could live like a King on the interest *on* the interest from his holdings.

14 posted on 02/19/2016 7:38:13 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In the 1960s and 1970s the newspapers in Tulsa where I grew up frequently discussed the eventual consequence of unfunded public pensions.

Pie eyed liberal dreamers insisted that growing revenue would cover the ballance.
Realists (they had them in both parties back then) insisted unfunded pensions would cause a disaster.
Politicians of the era gambled that they would be out of office before the consequences hit.

Today is eventually.


15 posted on 02/19/2016 7:38:29 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: caver
What kind of an idiot retires with kids still at home?

Well, he's a late-bloomer, I guess. Maybe they're actually grand-kids. It said he had 33 years with his job. Assuming 18+33, that equals 51 years of age, minimum, but the article doesn't mention his age, or how old he was when he started working that job. At 51, I'll have a 17-year-old and a 14-year-old. I'm not planning on retiring at that point, but it would be nice to be able to do so. I'm guessing he retired because his pension allowed him to do so.

16 posted on 02/19/2016 7:38:52 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: circlecity

Someone would have to be an idiot to buy those bonds.


17 posted on 02/19/2016 7:40:11 AM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: SkyPilot
people’s IRAs and 401Ks will be seized.

That's the Ghilarducci plan in a nutshell. Cover all the shorted union and public pensions out there by grabbing IRA's and 401K's and rolling it all into one big matzo ball.


18 posted on 02/19/2016 7:40:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Central States Pension Fund = Teamster’s Union mad money. I recall too many shady mob deals with the money. “the 400,000 members of the Central States Pension Fund, a multiemployer fund that serves mostly trucking companies represented by the Teamsters.” http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2015/12/13/1-members-of-central-states-fund-dismayed.html


19 posted on 02/19/2016 7:41:56 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: SeekAndFind

OUTSTANDING post. Thanks. (read it yesterday @ zh)


20 posted on 02/19/2016 7:41:58 AM PST by PGalt
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