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Trump leads Cruz by 14 points in national poll [Trump's "Canadian?" gambit a big flop]
The Hill ^ | January 23, 2016 | Mark Hensch

Posted on 01/23/2016 5:30:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump has a 14-point edge over Sen. Ted Cruz, his nearest rival, according to a new national poll.

Trump garners 34 percent support in the Fox News poll released Friday, with Cruz at 20 percent.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) ranks third with 11 percent, followed by retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 8 percent. Former Forida Gov. Jeb Bush and Ohio Gov. John Kasich tie for fifth with 4 percent apiece.

The poll also found that Cruz and Trump are the most popular second choice for likely Republican primary voters. Cruz is the second choice for 22 percent, while Trump is for 13 percent.

The survey found that voters are unconcerned with questions about Cruz's eligibility for the presidency.

Only 10 percent say the fact that Cruz was born in Canada makes it less likely they'll vote for him, while 88 percent said it would not affect their choice.

And 61 percent say he is natural-born American, with 27 disagreeing.

Cruz and Trump are battling for a lead in the early-voting state of Iowa, just 10 days away from the caucuses.

While Trump has double-digit leads in most national polls, he is ahead of Cruz by just 2.6 percent in Iowa, according to a RealClearPolitics average of polls.


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Fox Poll: Trump, Cruz top GOP race, few 'birther' concerns
1 posted on 01/23/2016 5:30:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Problem is, whether Cruz is a natural born citizen is not decided by popular vote.

He may very well be. But the controversy is an actual legal issue which hurts Cruz.


2 posted on 01/23/2016 5:34:55 AM PST by Gratia
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is the intellectually dishonest headline your doing?


3 posted on 01/23/2016 5:35:30 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Amntn

The National Review issue that attacks Trump will only inspire his supporters. In fact, it may wind up being the final boost in Iowa that gives Donald the nomination.

National Review just handed Donald Trump the Election
Republican Newswatch ^ | 1/22/16 | DOUG IBENDAHL
Posted on 1/22/2016, 8:39:33 PM by Amntn

National Review’s publication of the collective anti-Donald Trump missives from 22 self-appointed conservative potentates has caused quite a stir in Republican circles.

The nationwide responses range from, “Wait, I thought National Review went out of business years ago,” to “Ed Meese? Seriously?”

The Gang of 22 have officially become parodies of themselves. One would have to reach back to the days of Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew to lift an adequate quote to describe them.

“Nattering nabobs of negativism,” “vicars of vacillation,” “pusillanimous pussyfooters,” “the decadent few,” “ideological eunuchs,” “the effete corps of impudent snobs,” or “the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history” - take your pick, because they all apply about equally well to each and every one of them.

So clueless is the Gang of 22 they can’t even see how they’ve stumbled right into the narrative Trump’s been communicating so successfully for months. Just like the elected officials from both parties, the Gang of 22 has been GREAT at complaining about stuff, year, after year, after year.

But getting anything accomplished? Not so much.

Many of the Gang of 22 have been hanging around and chattering for decades, and some are active cogs in the Conservative Entertainment Complex, deriving their income by pandering to conservative anger while offering no real solutions.

Donald Trump represents a threat to these ineffectual poohbahs in the same way he represents a threat to do-nothing public officials.

Jealousy is also seriously at work here. Trump is inspiring and exciting a broad spectrum of the country like no member of the Gang of 22 ever has, or ever will.

In just seven months of campaigning, Trump already has more Americans listening to a Republican message than the entire Gang of 22 could muster over decades. Trump understands that before you can advance the ball, you have to convince people to take time from their busy lives to listen. No one on the GOP side since Ronald Reagan has accomplished that like Trump.

No one else has come close, and certainly no one from that “effete corps of impudent snobs” to which the National Review thinks we should defer.

The Gang of 22 had their chance. They’ve done a lot of bitching over the years, and it paid well for some.

But Americans care about results. They can plainly see that all of the empty talk from the Gang of 22 got us eight years of Barack Obama, and a loss in pretty much every conservative battle there was to lose.

At the same time when Americans look at Donald Trump’s life they get a lot of assurance that here is finally a man who shares their focus on actually getting results. And Trump returns the respect by recognizing regular hard-working Americans are a lot smarter than any of the “ideological eunuchs” in all of their pontificating glory.

The “pusillanimous pussyfooters” love to nitpick Trump’s words, but what voters are looking for this year is competence and accomplishment. Donald Trump has an actual record of delivering both in spades.

The Gang of 22 is right to be terrified. A President who could get things done would expose them as the irrelevant creatures they truly are.

It can’t happen fast enough.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3387420/posts


4 posted on 01/23/2016 5:35:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Check Trumphaters with kiryandil to see if they have ever contributed to Free Republic.)
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To: Gratia
Keep spinning those talking points.

Trump-Cruz 2016? If Cruz Isn't Qualified to Be Prez Then How Can He Be VP?

5 posted on 01/23/2016 5:36:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mac_truck

Fox Poll: Trump, Cruz top GOP race, few ‘birther’ concerns

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/01/22/fox-poll-trump-cruz-top-gop-race-few-birther-concerns/


6 posted on 01/23/2016 5:37:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mac_truck; Admin Moderator

The real headline not the bs addition:

January 22, 2016, 07:28 pm
Trump leads Cruz by 14 points in national poll


7 posted on 01/23/2016 5:37:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Check Trumphaters with kiryandil to see if they have ever contributed to Free Republic.)
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To: mac_truck

LOL, She is a big TDS sufferer.


8 posted on 01/23/2016 5:37:42 AM PST by dforest
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To: Grampa Dave

It’s all there - designated and separated - and all TRUE.


9 posted on 01/23/2016 5:39:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

it is the trump great showing in the polls that will keep cruz supporters home on caucus night...... why bother?


10 posted on 01/23/2016 5:39:32 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: dforest

When you can’t argue the facts, pound the table.


11 posted on 01/23/2016 5:39:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: bert
Even though CNN consistently puts it's thumb on the polling scale for Trump, their latest Iowa poll shows Cruz's numbers have increased.

Check it out

12 posted on 01/23/2016 5:43:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Birth status will be an issue for the courts. Then we will see what impact it has.


13 posted on 01/23/2016 5:44:35 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: bigbob

Oh yes. Run to the courts. That’s the ticket.

That’s what I hear all the time on FR. /s

It’s what Trump does all the time. I’d hate to have his legal bills.


14 posted on 01/23/2016 5:46:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did Cruz ever get his fans to pay for Walker’s failed campaign yet? I see he got your vote with that.

Or was that all talk?


15 posted on 01/23/2016 5:46:29 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

You’re still pounding the table...


16 posted on 01/23/2016 5:47:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Grampa Dave
Just a suggestion....
Your post of the article would be more readable if you'd take a couple minutes and
clean up the ‘ and “ symbols. You can do it manually or post the article into the space
provided at the following link and it will do it for you. Then copy the cleaned up
version and post to FR.

http://dan.hersam.com/tools/smart-quotes.html

17 posted on 01/23/2016 5:47:30 AM PST by deport
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To: deport

The National Review issue that attacks Trump will only inspire his supporters. In fact, it may wind up being the final boost in Iowa that gives Donald the nomination.

National Review just handed Donald Trump the Election
Republican Newswatch ^ 1/22/16 DOUG IBENDAHL
Posted on 1/22/2016, 8:39:33 PM by Amntn

National Review’s publication of the collective anti-Donald Trump missives from 22 self-appointed conservative potentates has caused quite a stir in Republican circles.

The nationwide responses range from, “Wait, I thought National Review went out of business years ago,” to “Ed Meese? Seriously?”

The Gang of 22 have officially become parodies of themselves. One would have to reach back to the days of Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew to lift an adequate quote to describe them.

“Nattering nabobs of negativism,” “vicars of vacillation,” “pusillanimous pussyfooters,” “the decadent few,” “ideological eunuchs,” “the effete corps of impudent snobs,” or “the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history” - take your pick, because they all apply about equally well to each and every one of them.

So clueless is the Gang of 22 they can’t even see how they’ve stumbled right into the narrative Trump’s been communicating so successfully for months. Just like the elected officials from both parties, the Gang of 22 has been GREAT at complaining about stuff, year, after year, after year.

But getting anything accomplished? Not so much.

Many of the Gang of 22 have been hanging around and chattering for decades, and some are active cogs in the Conservative Entertainment Complex, deriving their income by pandering to conservative anger while offering no real solutions.

Donald Trump represents a threat to these ineffectual poohbahs in the same way he represents a threat to do-nothing public officials.

Jealousy is also seriously at work here. Trump is inspiring and exciting a broad spectrum of the country like no member of the Gang of 22 ever has, or ever will.

In just seven months of campaigning, Trump already has more Americans listening to a Republican message than the entire Gang of 22 could muster over decades. Trump understands that before you can advance the ball, you have to convince people to take time from their busy lives to listen. No one on the GOP side since Ronald Reagan has accomplished that like Trump.

No one else has come close, and certainly no one from that “effete corps of impudent snobs” to which the National Review thinks we should defer.

The Gang of 22 had their chance. They’ve done a lot of bitching over the years, and it paid well for some.

But Americans care about results. They can plainly see that all of the empty talk from the Gang of 22 got us eight years of Barack Obama, and a loss in pretty much every conservative battle there was to lose.

At the same time when Americans look at Donald Trump’s life they get a lot of assurance that here is finally a man who shares their focus on actually getting results. And Trump returns the respect by recognizing regular hard-working Americans are a lot smarter than any of the “ideological eunuchs” in all of their pontificating glory.

The “pusillanimous pussyfooters” love to nitpick Trump’s words, but what voters are looking for this year is competence and accomplishment. Donald Trump has an actual record of delivering both in spades.

The Gang of 22 is right to be terrified. A President who could get things done would expose them as the irrelevant creatures they truly are.

It can’t happen fast enough.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3387420/posts


18 posted on 01/23/2016 5:51:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Check Trumphaters with kiryandil to see if they have ever contributed to Free Republic.)
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To: Gratia

Trump said even if there is only a 2 percent chance that Cruz is intelligible, 2 percent is still too much to consider him for vp. Of course it is!


19 posted on 01/23/2016 5:52:49 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just comparing poll questions, poll results, with headline and report.

The poll was conducted by telephone with live interviewers January 18-21, 2016 among a random national sample of 1,009 registered voters (RV)

15. Ted Cruz was born to an American citizen mother, while the family was temporarily working and living in Canada. Does this make you less likely to vote for him as the Republican nominee?

[ASK GOP PRIMARY VOTERS, N=405]

Yes 10%
No 88%
Don't know 2%

16. The U.S. Constitution requires that the president be a natural-born citizen. Knowing this, do you think Ted Cruz is eligible to be president of the United States, or not?

Yes 61%
No 27%
Don't know 11%

It would be interesting to ask "If you knew or believed that Cruz was not qualified, would that make you less likely to vote for him as the Republican nominee?

The poll is a good data point for how well the public has been fooled.

20 posted on 01/23/2016 5:53:58 AM PST by Cboldt
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