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Buddy, Can You Spare $15 an Hour?
Townhall.com ^ | January 21, 2016 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 01/21/2016 6:26:32 AM PST by Kaslin

Two years ago, Thumbtack -- a startup that connects consumers with local contractors -- conducted a survey to see what they thought of proposals to raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10, as per President Obama's bid "to give America a raise." The survey found that that a plurality of the small businesses that used Thumbtack thought a wage hike would be good for the economy. Most thought that a minimum-wage increase would have no effect on their hiring or firing decisions. But what happens if Washington passes Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders' proposal to more than double the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour -- or Californians pass a ballot measure to raise the state minimum wage to $15 from $10?

One piece of news this past weekend suggests a big minimum-wage hike could cost low-skilled workers their jobs.

Wal-Mart closed its Oakland store amid speculation that the city's $12.25 minimum wage played a role. Oakland City Councilman Larry Reid told The Chronicle the city's wage law was a factor in the closure. It's hard to think otherwise when Oakland was one of 269 stores slated to be shuttered across the country, while in nearby San Leandro, where the $10 state wage floor prevails, two stores will remain open for business. The Washington Post reported last week that Wal-Mart was withdrawing plans to build two superstores in the nation's capital. A city councilman told the Post that behind closed doors Wal-Mart blamed D.C.'s minimum wage rules (currently $11.50 per hour, but the wage could rise to $15 if voters pass a ballot measure).

Thumbtack Chief Economist Jon Lieber finds it amazing how the $10.10 plan blossomed into a $15 floor, which may make sense in high-cost urban areas, but would put a hard squeeze on employers in places like Laramie, Wyoming. The vast majority of the small businesses surveyed by Thumbtack already pay well above the minimum wage, which is not surprising as many provide professional services. There is one group, however, that the survey found was most likely to be hardest hit -- employers who paid more than $7.25 but less than $10.10. Wal-Mart falls into that category.

In April, the retail giant raised its nationwide minimum wage to $9. In October, Wal-Mart announced that the increase in labor costs cut into its profit margin. This month came store closures. Lieber expects to see retailers install more automated checkout machines as the cost of labor rises.

Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf endorsed Oakland's minimum wage, which 82 percent of voters supported. I got no comment from Schaaf, but her office noted that Oakland's unemployment fell from 6.1 percent in February 2015, before the wage hike went into effect in March, to 5.3 percent in September. The Wal-Mart closure, however, means 400 fewer jobs and the loss of revenue from one of the city's top 25 sales-tax producers.

In 2014, former GOP gubernatorial candidate and Silicon Valley entrepreneur Ron Unz worked the conservative case for a higher minimum wage. (Short version: Make work pay more than welfare.) When we talked Tuesday, I asked Unz about Oakland. He told me, "I could see Oakland having possibly made a mistake trying to match San Francisco." Note to Sanders and state unions: Beware what you promise; it could kill entry-level jobs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: minimumwage; walmart

1 posted on 01/21/2016 6:26:32 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 01/21/2016 6:28:21 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kaslin

As if any of them care about entry level workers. If those people are staying home because of lack of work, the Democrats can hire them to attend rallies and block operating businesses.

That whole Community Organizer thing.


3 posted on 01/21/2016 6:33:45 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Kaslin
. . . a plurality of the small businesses that used Thumbtack thought a wage hike would be good for the economy. Most thought that a minimum-wage increase would have no effect on their hiring or firing decisions.

I predict that most of these small businesses will be out of business within two years as their owners know nothing about economics.

4 posted on 01/21/2016 6:35:58 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Kaslin

“In 2014, former GOP gubernatorial candidate and Silicon Valley entrepreneur Ron Unz worked the conservative case for a higher minimum wage. (Short version: Make work pay more than welfare.)”

That won’t work, because people on welfare can also work on the side, get all sorts of tax credits, or do crimes/scams to get extra money and make much more than the minimum wage will pay.

If you want permanently entitled to work, the only way is to present them with the option of: work or starve.


5 posted on 01/21/2016 6:38:34 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Kaslin

Totally explains the massive Walmart closures that are coming in the US. The radio news reports say crickets about this angle.


6 posted on 01/21/2016 6:40:18 AM PST by uncitizen (False flag mass shootings are Americas Reichstag Fire)
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To: gorush

What a Jerk, every 1 nose its FRI”Z”E.


7 posted on 01/21/2016 6:43:56 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Just an old grumpy guy looking back in time, wondering WTF happened?)
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To: uncitizen

Totally explains the massive Walmart closures that are coming in the US. The radio news reports say crickets about this angle. ................................. I believe its restructuring, closing their older stores and going into having smaller “fresh market” stores.


8 posted on 01/21/2016 6:46:53 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Just an old grumpy guy looking back in time, wondering WTF happened?)
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To: Kaslin

1. The government does not have the right to set a minimum or maximum hourly rate.
2. Whatever it is raised to, in a few years will not be enough, and the libs will be clamoring for another raise.
3. In a few years, that will not be enough, and the cycle continues.


9 posted on 01/21/2016 6:51:29 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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"...The survey found that that a plurality of the small businesses that used Thumbtack thought a wage hike would be good for the economy. Most thought that a minimum-wage increase would have no effect on their hiring or firing decisions..."

What kind of "startup" is Thumbtack? Is it run by a bunch of hipsters? That might be the problem right there. This is a piece of their website:

Don't get me wrong-I think it is a great idea and am all for startups who provide services and make money for the people that own, run, and work for them, and as such, I want things like Thumbtack to be successful...very successful. But we also have to keep in mind the mindset of the people who run these types of surveys.

Getting back to their survey where A "plurality of the small businesses that used Thumbtack". Gee, what OTHER questions did they ask, I wonder that would cause a "plurality" versus a "majority". Heck, for all we know, that "plurality" might have been 10%.

For all we know, they might have asked fifteen other questions that said things like "I would like to see the minimum wage cut by 2/3 to increase my profits." or "I think slave labor is the best way to maximize my profits." More likely, these "small businesses" that responded so positively, and thought this would have no effect on their hiring practices have two employees.

I am 100% behind individual/small business, and think our country should do everything possible to encourage and promote them, but it is important to remember: (Small Business is defined as a company having less than 500 employees. About 80% of Small Businesses are non-employers, and the only person in the business is the person owning it, running it, and doing the work.)

10 posted on 01/21/2016 7:06:48 AM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Arm_Bears; wbarmy

See my post at #10.


11 posted on 01/21/2016 7:08:05 AM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Kaslin
It's hard to think otherwise when Oakland was one of 269 stores slated to be shuttered across the country,

Cripes. It's 269 world-wide. It's 154 domestic stores.
12 posted on 01/21/2016 7:18:29 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: Kaslin

O, surprise, blacks walking the picket line and a white socialist democrat with the megaphone. Playaz bein’ played...


13 posted on 01/21/2016 7:18:34 AM PST by W. (Dammit, I made a great tagline and forgot to write it down!)
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To: Kaslin
Minimum-wage increase proposals are NOT about minimum wages.
It's about UNION wages (read government employees mostly) and UNION DUES.
Like "Artie" on another thread wrote. So read the following:
14 posted on 01/21/2016 8:53:39 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Kaslin
This whole $15 per hour minimum wage nonsense causes job loss and business closings where ever it is applied — Seattle, SeaTac, San Francisco. Politicians have no business dictating salaries to private employers. When they do, the results are catastrophic to the local employers, employees, and economies of these areas. However, the politicians bask in the “look what I did for you” mantra. Instead, the employees and businesses reap the economic effects of what the politician's did to them.
15 posted on 01/21/2016 8:54:00 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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To: Kaslin

When Bernie raises the min wage, his savings account will lose it’s value.


16 posted on 01/21/2016 9:33:34 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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