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Let it be, New York
American Thinker ^ | 1/18/16 | Fritz Pettyjohn

Posted on 01/18/2016 6:44:22 AM PST by TBBT

People where I live don't care about New York City one way or the other. We think eight million people living all crammed together is unhealthy and unnatural, but if those people want to live that way, so be it. They like their high tax, big public sector economy, and their rent control and gun control. They're amoral, cosmopolitan, and nonjudgmental; authoritarian and elitist; disconnected and unconcerned with the vast interior of America.

They're different than the rest of us, but we don't really care. You see, we're pretty tolerant in my neck of the woods, even of people we find peculiar, a little off. It's a very big and highly diverse country. We don't want to take away their lifestyle. We just don't want it imposed on us.

So when Ted Cruz starts talking about New York values, we get it. He's not telling the people of New York to change their ways. He's asking them to respect the rest of us.

In American Nations, Colin Woodard dubs New Yorkers as New Netherlanders to emphasize their distinctiveness. Politically they're normally aligned with Yankeedom, which stretches west from the Atlantic to the eastern fringes of the Dakotas. When the Left Coast and El Norte are added, this coalition approaches an electoral majority. Its natural and historical opposition is in the four sub-regions of the South (Tidewater, Deep South, New France, and Greater Appalachia) along with the Far West.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cruz; newyork; nyvalues
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1 posted on 01/18/2016 6:44:23 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

NYC is like Vegas. Nice place to visit, and when you leave you’re glad what is there stays there.


2 posted on 01/18/2016 6:45:46 AM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: kjam22

And feel a real need to take a shower. Sleaze 24/7.


3 posted on 01/18/2016 6:48:58 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: TBBT

I went out yesterday to the grocery store, and saw a perfect example. A pedestrian carrying a slice of pizza was rushing to beat the light. As he ran to avoid being run over by oncoming traffic, he took a big bite from the slice in the middle of the street. Only in New York!


4 posted on 01/18/2016 6:51:18 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: TBBT

Another thing that disgusts me about NYC is their ambivalence to the war on terror, especially after 9/11.


5 posted on 01/18/2016 6:52:10 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: TBBT

Every time I had to go there, the best part of the trip was that feel of the plane lifting off to leave.


6 posted on 01/18/2016 6:52:52 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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Was it from one of those 99 cent pizza joints that are scattered throughout NYC? I have one of those near my Lexington Avenue office and I went there only once.
7 posted on 01/18/2016 6:54:45 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: kjam22
NYC is like Vegas. Nice place to visit ...
I was born and raised NYC/LI but moved away in 1964 when I was 17.
I started visiting every few years, always wondering if I should move back.
Sometime around 1980 or so I decided - no way.
And sometime around 2000 I decided they couldn't pay me to live there.
8 posted on 01/18/2016 6:55:23 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: TBBT

What a dumb article. I guess he doesn’t like Tokyo, London, Paris, Rome, Chicago, the list goes on and on...


9 posted on 01/18/2016 6:56:14 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard then Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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I don’t know why nobody is targeting the recent words (very recent, but a repeat of a statement he made a couple of months ago) of NY Governor Cuomo.

According to Cuomo, pro-life people and people who question gay marriage AREN’T WELCOME in NY. Seems to me that that statement defines New York Values in a nutshell. Easy target.


10 posted on 01/18/2016 6:59:51 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: miss marmelstein

Probably...

And... when it comes to any big city that you would like to name... you can count me out.

Maybe a nice place to visit - for some - but for many, you wouldn’t want to live there.


11 posted on 01/18/2016 7:02:46 AM PST by TBBT
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Yeah... Mrs Kjam22 and I and some friends visited for 8 days in 2010. About the second day we were on top of one of those tour busses with no roof. Obama’s wannabe sister was the “host” of our guided tour and about 5 feet from us. She was extremely political and condescending in her comments. After a while, I “dialoged” her a bit and she put the mic down and went down the stairs. The whole bus I’m sure missed her telling us whatever ....


12 posted on 01/18/2016 7:03:34 AM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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Absolutely right. I had to drive through there not ONCE, but twice while on a vacation. By the time I made it through that second round I even made up cuss words and repeated them often.

Trump sure stepped into his OFT' hated Politically Correct mode when he played that "Victim Card" in the debate. Then smugly let it rest.

13 posted on 01/18/2016 7:07:38 AM PST by annieokie
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I LOVE to visit.

I worked there for 10 months for Merrill Lynch, and stayed in the Millennium Hilton across from the WTC - after they were bombed.

First , I was on an expense account, and IMHO, that is the only way to see Manhattan, or the pain is too great.

Second, the people are very direct. That I find refreshing after living on the Left Coast where “Let’s do lunch” really means “I hate your guts”.

Anecdote, I left my wallet in a cab as I was checking into the hotel once. The bellhop ran after the cab for a block. They let me check into the hotel without ID or CC. I got a call that night from a guy who found my wallet. The wallet was dropped off the next morning at the hotel: credit card, cash and ID intact. I know that is not reflective of everyone’s New York city experience, but it did happen to me.

All that said, Manhattan is no place for the middle class. I don’t see how anyone could raise a family ther without tons of money.


14 posted on 01/18/2016 7:08:08 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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The article is so stupid. He distains that New York supports a police force - as if every city, town and village from coast to coast doesn’t support a police force. He mocks the fact that people use the subway system - one of the best systems of travel in a very large city. What would London be without the Tube? Apparently, he doesn’t know that most large apartment buildings in NYC have garages for New Yorkers’ cars. I don’t have one so I park in the public parking lot near my apt. If New Yorkers didn’t own cars, why is the traffic so bad?

In a way, I’m almost sorry that Trump (who I support) is a New Yorker. The disgusting and ignorant comments I’ve been forced to read for three days now have angered and depressed me.

But out-of-towners! Keep spending your vacation time in Times Square stuffing dollar bills into the Naked Cowboy’s pants. Don’t bother with Lincoln Center or the Metropolitan Museum of Art. That’s old foggy New York stuff.


15 posted on 01/18/2016 7:10:16 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard then Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: Darteaus94025

It is hard to be middle-class in Manhattan these days - especially with kids!

Being by nature forgetful, I don’t know how many businessmen used to turn up at my office bearing my wallet, keys, mail, etc. It go so bad, I used to keep five dollar bills on me to tip them. Of course, they never took the money.


16 posted on 01/18/2016 7:12:53 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard then Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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They're amoral, cosmopolitan, and nonjudgmental

One out of three ain't is bad.

The 'cosmopolitan' tag is undeserved given the number of people in the area that are provincial and obsessed with New York to the exclusion of all else (see the famous New Yorker 'map' cover meant to be humorous but actually quite accurate).

Nonjudgmental? Only of their fellow Gothamites. They are happy to heap scorn on 49 other states. They apparently are incapable of irony or introspection...they will excoriate Wisconsin's governor, for example, without actually physically having visited Wisconsin. Details, details...

17 posted on 01/18/2016 7:20:32 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: miss marmelstein
He mocks the fact that people use the subway system - one of the best systems of travel in a very large city.
It even has its own entertainment!Actually, the subway is always a highlight of my visits. Back in the day, my kids would beg me to go riding even if we had no place to go.
18 posted on 01/18/2016 7:21:34 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: miss marmelstein
But out-of-towners! Keep spending your vacation time in Times Square stuffing dollar bills into the Naked Cowboy's pants. Don't bother with Lincoln Center or the Metropolitan Museum of Art. That's old foggy New York stuff.

What good points you make in that post. Most tourists never see much more than Times Square and maybe Rockefeller Center. Even Central Park, they may only explore the fringe of it before their feet get tired. Which happens to be where the ripoff pedi-bike rides are ($75 for a 15-minute ride anybody?).

Most tourists never dip into the marvelously efficient subway system that gets you anywhere in the city in minutes for a few dollars a day. I guess they get intimidated by the numbers and letters.

But the tourists keep coming don't they? They spend their money here and then go home to write bad things about us. Then they come back.

19 posted on 01/18/2016 7:23:52 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Proud2BeRight
Every time I had to go there, the best part of the trip was that feel of the plane lifting off to leave.

Well, if you "have" to go there, that must mean you need NY for some reason, so you really can't knock it.

20 posted on 01/18/2016 7:27:17 AM PST by southern rock
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