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Poll: Trump leads, but when it comes to second choice, Cruz is on top
msnbc.com ^ | 01/07/16 | Josh Clinton, John Lapinski, Marc Trussler and Sam Petulla

Posted on 01/17/2016 7:12:04 PM PST by kik5150

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To: Red Steel

No doubt. Reuters and MSNBC are joined at Mathews hip.


41 posted on 01/17/2016 9:01:29 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: kik5150
What hypocrites you clowns are. Suddenly | Josh Clinton, John Lapinski, Marc Trussler and Sam Petulla AND MSNBC are not only mathematical geniuses, they're sooth sayers when it suits you.
This ties into the poll that found Cruz either ahead or tied with Trump when matched head to head in a two man race. At this time,
Is that from this same MSNBC pol you suddenly love so much or is that just wishful thinking?
42 posted on 01/17/2016 9:05:41 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: kik5150

So, most of the establishment vote will jump to Cruz, good to know.


43 posted on 01/17/2016 9:13:46 PM PST by euram
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To: parksstp

Hey, parksstp.

Where’d you come by all those predictions/prognostications of yours?


44 posted on 01/17/2016 9:22:46 PM PST by Critical 1
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To: Critical 1

I’ve looked at the data and gone through each of the counties. I know what type of person votes for whom.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByE8lWD3jcH7N2tRdDF6YmY0NEk/view?pref=2&pli=1

Covered with on the ground reports, all indications are turnout will now be less than even 130,000 in IA. In 2 weeks, I’ll put the hard vote totals out. The spreadsheet only has 60 of the 99 counties so far but I’m working on the rest.

What I do know is at this time, Cruz is running ahead of Huckabee’s 08 numbers and Trump is capped at 27%, but the closeness of the Dem Caucus is going to bring that number down further.


45 posted on 01/17/2016 10:08:55 PM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: ripnbang
I do understand you. You must have misunderstood me.

No one is talking about "winning" the manner Donald is going about it now!

I certainly don't mean to misunderstand Donald's reasoning and don't know where he's getting his advice (in his mirror in the morning when he brushes his teeth, I assume he still needs to brush or maybe his teeth are now so perfect, as he is, he never needs to brush, just kidding) maybe he's taking lessons from one of the biggest narcissist we've seen in a long time, Barack Hussein Obama now or others around him have suggested he resort to that.

People can make up their minds about who has the type of leadership skills we desire at this time in our country. JEB long ago proved not to be up to that task, no matter how nice a guy he is, if that.

We agree that we all want desperately to win this one but we will need all the votors to enthusiastically head to the polls, to win one for the team!

If you think Donald's a team player, we must be listening and watching a different guy. The one I'm watching lately, is behaving more like Don Rickles than Ronald Reagan!

46 posted on 01/17/2016 10:10:28 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: kik5150

Once Trump is out of the race? Never before this election cycle, have I heard anyone talking about the front runner consistently ahead by 20% or more, getting out of the race! Why in the world would Trump do that? Why in the world would anyone think he would?


47 posted on 01/17/2016 10:22:41 PM PST by erkelly
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To: lewislynn
“Poll: Trump leads, but when it comes to second choice, Cruz is on top” “What kind of illogical lunacy is that supposed to prove? You can't also be on top for 2nd choice when you're already on top of ALL the choices.”

Second place is important due to this:
The candidate on top may not remain on top when other candidates below drop out. When they drop out, their supporters go to number one or number two. If Trump has ticked off those voters due to the way he treated their candidates, they can go to number two and make him number one.

48 posted on 01/17/2016 10:50:17 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: parksstp

Counting the numbers as you are doing is excellent work. Please ping me when you make a post.


49 posted on 01/17/2016 10:57:45 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: kik5150

In 2012, Romney NEVER crossed 30% until after Super Tuesday. He won by dividing republican votes. I can visualize repeat in 2016. Cruz could ascend to 33.
Trump could stay at 33. Then Bush wins with 34%.


50 posted on 01/17/2016 11:10:23 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz 100% eligible as natural born Canada citizen!! SCOTUS may clear his USA NBC status.)
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To: lewislynn

May be us Trumsters should nor wake up the Cruzers from their dreams of victory. Let them enjoy the dream at least until March 8th. There will be plenty time for them to bemoan the shattered dream later.


51 posted on 01/17/2016 11:16:48 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz 100% eligible as natural born Canada citizen!! SCOTUS may clear his USA NBC status.)
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To: kik5150

Rubio & Cruz are joined at the hip?
What is common between them except they have Cuban blood?


52 posted on 01/17/2016 11:18:55 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz 100% eligible as natural born Canada citizen!! SCOTUS may clear his USA NBC status.)
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To: Marcella

Dreaming and fantasies are fun. But at the end that’s all they ever were.


53 posted on 01/18/2016 12:58:57 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: entropy12

A few of those would kill for 4% right now.


54 posted on 01/18/2016 3:31:35 AM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: changeitback440
2nd place is the first loser

Only if the race is over....

55 posted on 01/18/2016 4:08:49 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Marcella

To: parksstp

Counting the numbers as you are doing is excellent work.
The spreadsheet is easy to follow.

** Please ping me when you make a post. **


56 posted on 01/18/2016 6:35:20 AM PST by Critical 1
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Trump understands that if he doesn’t bully Cruz out of the race he will lose if the others drop out.

THe moron Trump supporters can’t understand this. They have fallen for his Elmer Gantry schtick.


57 posted on 01/18/2016 11:01:25 AM PST by Leto
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To: entropy12
# 1, you don't know what strawman means.
And # 2, chances are we will have a 2 man race long before May, early enough for it to count. By the finish of voting in South Carolina, most of the current GOP field would have bowed out of the race. Even Iowa alone could kick Santorum and Huckabee out of the race. A two man race is going to come much much quicker than you think, and Ted Cruz will be by far the biggest beneficiary.
58 posted on 01/18/2016 12:28:47 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: kik5150

Somebody’s got to say it, second choice still loses. :-)


59 posted on 01/18/2016 12:36:59 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: lewislynn
I'm betting they'll go with they guy they know for sure is at least a qualified citizen.

Ted Cruz?
I am not going to hold Donald Trump's natural born Scottish, British mother against him

60 posted on 01/18/2016 12:40:35 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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