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Former CIA chief in Benghazi challenges film version of 2012 attacks
WaPo ^ | 1/15/16 | Adam Goldman and Greg Miller

Posted on 01/15/2016 10:04:36 AM PST by Nachum

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To: SeaHawkFan
"Bob" may or may not be a real person.

Barack OBama ?

21 posted on 01/15/2016 10:22:32 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Whatever the faults of 13 Hours — it can’t possibly be as intentionally deceptive as any Oliver Stone movie.”

Yes. Great point.

I’d add, or a Spielberg movie, or just about any of them.


22 posted on 01/15/2016 10:23:02 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: The Toll

Someone who tells our security personnel to “stand down” in the face of danger is not someone for whom I have abiding respect.

You don’t need to hail from Harvard and Yale to know Libya was a dangerous place.

From which we should have evacuated our embassy personnel and dependents well ahead of time.


23 posted on 01/15/2016 10:25:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nachum

Well...if he didn’t tell them to stand down (whatever the reason), then did he send the team? if they didn’t go, why not?


24 posted on 01/15/2016 10:27:30 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: UCANSEE2

Did “Bob” tell those navy guys to stand down and let the the Iranians “rescue” them?


25 posted on 01/15/2016 10:27:56 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: gaijin

Bob is having a hard time dealing with his guilty feelings!


26 posted on 01/15/2016 10:28:52 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Nachum

Bob is mentioned in the book the movie is made from.

He does not come off well.

Bob delayed the guys who wanted to go to the embassy as long as he could. Whether Bob delayed the guys through incompetence, stupidity or sheer stubbornness, I do not know.


27 posted on 01/15/2016 10:30:43 AM PST by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: Nachum
a scene in which the highest-ranking CIA operative at a secret agency compound orders his security team to 'stand down' rather than rush off to rescue U.S. diplomats under siege less than a mile away.

From the very beginning, this was 'known'.

Former deputy chief of mission in Libya: U.S. military assets told to stand down - CNN article published on Tue May 7, 2013

"Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, a member of the committee, tells CNN that "military personnel were ready willing and able, and within proximity, but the Pentagon told them they had no authority and to stand down.""

""So Lt. Col. Gibson, who is the SOCAfrica commander, his team, you know, they were on their way to the vehicles to go to the airport to get on the C-130 when he got a phone call from SOCAfrica which said, 'you can't go now, you don't have authority to go now,'' Hicks said. "And so they missed the flight.""

28 posted on 01/15/2016 10:31:37 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Nachum

Bob did a much better job getting the hostages out of Iran in Fargo than he does in 13 Hours in rescuing the Ambassador. However, rescuing the Ambassador was not the mission.


29 posted on 01/15/2016 10:34:27 AM PST by The Toll
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To: TexasCajun

I think it was a case of DOING NOTHING.

There were a few key areas where it required the consent or request of certain key officials to get the ball rolling.

They simply ‘did nothing’.


30 posted on 01/15/2016 10:34:44 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: stylin_geek

The key to figuring out who had the ultimate authority on this situation (and would have had to OK a ‘rescue’ mission) is to realize that there is the CIA, and then there is the DEPT of STATE CIA.


31 posted on 01/15/2016 10:37:36 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Nachum

What about Bob?


32 posted on 01/15/2016 10:38:01 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Nachum

Who’s playing the won and the beast?

I can’t find either on imdb.


33 posted on 01/15/2016 10:41:57 AM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: goldstategop
"The White House, State Department and Pentagon helped to create a long night of horrors in Benghazi that culminated in the rape, torture and murder of our ambassador."

Glenn Beck had the 3 on his program last night. He asked them, he said it has been reported that the ambassador had been..... and before he could get the word out, one of the 3 said "It didn't happen." He said he personally examined Ambassador Stephen.

34 posted on 01/15/2016 10:43:00 AM PST by Spunky
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To: UCANSEE2
Pentagon Email:

'They Are Spinning Up As We Speak': Why Were American Forces Held Back In Benghazi?

The men on the ground in Benghazi that night are lying. The people who claim they wanted to help, but were ordered not to, are lying. And the families of the men who fell are lying. Hell, even the official e-mail record is lying. They're all lying.

35 posted on 01/15/2016 10:43:14 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Nachum

Meet Bob.

Bob needs a little blue pill to Stiffen his spine and stand tall. Without it, he is just another limb bobbie.

36 posted on 01/15/2016 10:44:21 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: vette6387

Other than Bob(???)there were others at the annex and CIA compound. I understand about three dozen. Why have they all been silenced about those “13 Hours”?


37 posted on 01/15/2016 10:45:22 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Nachum

If never a stand down order, this would make it worse.


38 posted on 01/15/2016 10:46:00 AM PST by boomop1 (Term limits is the only way to change this failed government.)
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To: Nachum
At no time did I ever second-guess that the team would depart.

What a weaselly way to put it.

39 posted on 01/15/2016 10:46:58 AM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Doc91678

They were personally visited by Cheryl Mills, HIllary’s scrubber. They were specificly instructed to not to discuss the events with the Congressional Investigation and the team that was headed over there to interview them.

Then they were “lost” and unavailable according to the State Dept. and DOD.


40 posted on 01/15/2016 10:47:45 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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