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The Christmas Revolution [Rare: An intelligent piece from the NY Times!]
NY Times ^ | 12/25/15 | Peter Wehner

Posted on 12/28/2015 2:10:19 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

....it's easy even for Christians to forget how revolutionary Jesus' birth was. The idea that God would become human and dwell among us, in circumstances both humble and humiliating, shattered previous assumptions. It was through this story of divine enfleshment that much of our humanistic tradition was born...

...the incarnation - the belief that God, in the person of Jesus, walked in our midst - is history's hinge point. The incarnation's most common theological take-away relates to the doctrine of redemption: the belief that salvation is made possible by the sinless life and atoning death of Jesus. But there are other, less familiar aspects....

....rejecting the Platonic belief that the material world was evil...

The incarnation also reveals that the divine principle governing the universe is a radical commitment to the dignity and worth of every person, since we are created in the divine image.

....we have value because God values us....

....secular humanist and French philosopher Luc Ferry writes that in contrast with the Greek understanding of humanity, "Christianity was to introduce the notion that humanity was fundamentally identical, that men were equal in dignity - an unprecedented idea at the time..."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: christ; religion; truth
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Worth the entire read.

God permitted the extreme leftist NY Times to inadvertently publish some truth.

1 posted on 12/28/2015 2:10:20 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I try not to chide a person or an organization when it does something right for a change. The NYT’s publishing of this editorial may (a big “may”) help some secularists to gain a better understanding of Christianity.


2 posted on 12/28/2015 2:40:09 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thanks. It’s a nice article and well written. The comments are typical bile from the aggressive look at me I’m smart because I’m an atheist crowd.

Dogmatic atheists are a conundrum.


3 posted on 12/28/2015 3:00:33 AM PST by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Christians have often fallen short of what followers of Jesus are called to be. We have seen this in the Crusades, religious wars and bigotry; in opposition to science, in the way critical thought is discouraged and in harsh judgmentalism. To this day, many professing Christians embody the antithesis of grace.

Ah, so we’re not so wonderful after all.


4 posted on 12/28/2015 3:43:39 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Excellence

geesh.......


5 posted on 12/28/2015 3:47:19 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Excellence

The Crusades: Christians should not have defended themselves?


6 posted on 12/28/2015 4:05:01 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: arthurus

It’s amazing how little people know about the Crusades and about Islam. And their ignorance will spell the end of Western Civilization.


7 posted on 12/28/2015 4:22:15 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Wehner makes some great points. (Note that he is a a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, which is also the home of George Weigel.)

Actually, the Crusades, with the exception of a couple of murderous incidents, were largely penitential missions of reclamation, not aggression. Not sure how deep Wehner wanted that admonishment to go.
And Wehner accurately points out that Jesus revoked the strong tribalistic beliefs of the era, and proclaimed all men brothers. Today, with the rise of gangs here in the USofA and the rise of Islam, we see a recrudescence of the most vile traits of social intercourse. The "progressive" movement here and abroad is a return to division and murderous, tribalistic strife.

But, it is shocking that the NYT would publish a piece so totally contrary to its normal intellectual garbage spew.
8 posted on 12/28/2015 4:29:10 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I guess that to keep his writing 'gig' with the Slimes, he had to get a dig in at Christianity, in the form of his comment on the Crusades. Otherwise, a piece that is actually relatively fair and balanced from the Slimes. A modern day 'Christmas miracle', no less.

9 posted on 12/28/2015 5:23:39 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It will enlighten many to be sure, but doesn’t address the future.

“We are part of a great drama that God has chosen to be a participant in, not in the role of a conquering king but as a suffering servant, not with the intention to condemn the world but to redeem it.”

He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, redeemer and judge. He conquered with His death and will in fact rule and with a rod of iron, no less. Thing is, He will rule with truth and grace. Can’t wait.


10 posted on 12/28/2015 6:13:38 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Excellence

Get lost.


11 posted on 12/28/2015 6:16:17 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Excellence
We have seen this in the Crusades,

in opposition to science,

?

Are you talking about empiricism? Materialism? Neither can bridge the gap between what IS and what SHOULD BE.

Materialists have no grounds to moralize.

in the way critical thought is discouraged and in harsh judgmentalism.

Tell that to St. Albert the Great, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Dominic, St. Anselm, etc., ad infinitum.

Secularism has brought us the joys of communism and anti-rationalist post-modernism and deconstruction.

Back to DU, college student.

12 posted on 12/28/2015 6:26:25 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: arthurus

Since is was “Catholic” led, it is diabolical. The term “Dark Ages” was a slam at Catholic theology and the brilliant “thinking” that occurred in that time period which literally led to the Scholastic period and the Renaissance.

Control of Words (Wittgenstein) and language will determine how one “feels” about an event or idea.

The demonization of Catholic/Christian Theology has been going on for hundreds of years because it is the only Rational religion-—and for useful idiots the Left/Marxists/nobles/elites have to have ignorant, irrational masses who just “feel” so they will be “happy slaves”.

The Age of Reason and Modern Science was only possible with a Christian Mindset along with the elevation of women/the family unit-—the understanding of Natural Law Theory—Logic and Reason and God’s Design of the Universe and Human Nature (the Bible).


13 posted on 12/28/2015 6:40:45 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Excellence

Dr. Bill Warner knows the truth about Islam. His books and videos should be mandatory for schools


14 posted on 12/28/2015 6:50:25 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Excellence
It turns out that we're sinners.

Gack!

Who knew?

I know Someone who knows.

15 posted on 12/28/2015 6:53:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future." - Oscar Wilde)
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To: savagesusie
Thank you, Savagesusie.

Tagline

16 posted on 12/28/2015 6:56:22 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: Ann Archy; arthurus; pgkdan; St_Thomas_Aquinas; Jan_Sobieski; Mrs. Don-o

I didn’t think the sarcasm tag was necessary. Obviously I was wrong.


17 posted on 12/28/2015 7:10:41 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: savagesusie
The Dark Age was an effect of Islam and it extended through great portions of even the Eastern Empire. The whole civilized world lost more than two centuries.

in the dark
origin

18 posted on 12/28/2015 7:11:16 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Excellence

If that was saracasm then please accept my apologies.


19 posted on 12/28/2015 7:12:03 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Excellence

If that was sarcasm then please accept my apologies.


20 posted on 12/28/2015 7:12:21 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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