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Fox News anchor confronts Cruz with 2013 remarks on immigration reform
thehill.com ^ | December 16, 2015 | Elliot Smilowitz

Posted on 12/16/2015 8:03:23 PM PST by 867V309

“The problem, though, is that at the time you were telling people … this was not a poison pill,” Baier said in response. “You said you wanted it to pass at the time. Looking back at what you said then, and what you said now, which one should people believe?”

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TOPICS: Canada; Cuba; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; US: Alabama; US: Texas; US: Utah
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Watch the clip: you decide.

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1 posted on 12/16/2015 8:03:23 PM PST by 867V309
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To: 867V309

I like how Cruz moves from a quote referencing the passing of the bill, then he immediately tries to confuse the audience by saying, “of course I wanted my AMENDMENT to pass.” See the switchoff?


2 posted on 12/16/2015 8:07:11 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 867V309; All

Another observation: Notice that Cruz is NOT dealing with the issue. Bret is asking Cruz about supporting LEGALIZATION short of a pathway to citizenship. Cruz keeps talking about CITIZENSHIP, which he describes as amnesty.

There are two different conversations going on in this interview. Cruz never engaged with the actual conversation, which is his support for legalization.


3 posted on 12/16/2015 8:12:42 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I like how Cruz

You use that word, I don't think it means what you think it means. At least not when you use it in reference to Cruz, considering everyone of your posts in reference to him

4 posted on 12/16/2015 8:13:49 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Legal Residency or Citizenship, I’m not for either but C-ship is a lot worse. Just my view.


5 posted on 12/16/2015 8:14:40 PM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz: It’s Sessions fault!

I don’t see how any Cruz supporter can defend this.


6 posted on 12/16/2015 8:15:30 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: 867V309

I saw this and was disgusted. If they had given obama a hard time during all the 7+ years, I’d not complain about this now. It shows the side of them that I despise.. due to the state our country is in because they let the traitor do whatever.. and gave him the “respect” they thought was due the President.. and then they crucify the ones who would try to fix things the GOP and such, let happen.. helped happen.

O’Reilly tried to tell bret why we are so angry (he got it almost right)... and bret said he knew that... so if he did.. he had no right to give Cruz or Trump a set of questions he did not give to anyone else. I hate the clubs one group sets up and then measures everyone else by their self made rules. You can belong... you cannot belong.. Reminds me of elementary school in the girls circle of rules and conquests.

I’m glad Trump is not bothered by clubs and such!


7 posted on 12/16/2015 8:16:11 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: Mastador1
You use that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Catching the deception amuses me

8 posted on 12/16/2015 8:16:24 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I think Cruz is weaseling through this and I don’t like it.

Despite Cruz not being tough on this in the past, my trust of these candidates on immigration policy is as follows:

1. Trump
2. Cruz
giant gap

3 -9. Rest of field.

Thjs isn’t a disqualifier for me for Cruz and frankly seeing our GOPe media take off after him today makes me dislike the Rubio’s of the world a lot more.


9 posted on 12/16/2015 8:16:39 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: BeadCounter
Legal Residency or Citizenship, I’m not for either but C-ship is a lot worse. Just my view.

Legal residency will inevitably lead to citizenship, though just jumping to citizenship is obviously faster. On top of that, Cruz is claiming that he never supported legalization, even though he did, and long after the Gang of Eight fight was over.

10 posted on 12/16/2015 8:18:05 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 867V309

All politicians are creeps and psychopaths. Cruz is not an especially talented one.


11 posted on 12/16/2015 8:18:52 PM PST by Stentor (RIP -- Nicholas Thalasinos.)
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To: 867V309
This is absolutely dishonest. The amendment was a poison pill. Cruz was saying, “you want them to come out of the shadows? Fine, this amendment does that.” But that was never what they wanted and Cruz exposed it.
13 posted on 12/16/2015 8:20:44 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: brickdds
So let’s see how the trumpholes defend that.

Just remember, when your nether parts get Cruzty, go deep with that washcloth.

14 posted on 12/16/2015 8:21:20 PM PST by Stentor (RIP -- Nicholas Thalasinos.)
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To: 867V309

Already posted by a person that signed up just a couple of days ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3373547/posts


15 posted on 12/16/2015 8:21:50 PM PST by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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To: 867V309

I saw this today and thought Cruz was fast talking and evasive.


16 posted on 12/16/2015 8:22:35 PM PST by BAW (Pro God. Pro Life. Pro Gun. Pro Trump.)
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To: 867V309
You are a dishonest pile of Obama for posting this crap. This has already been posted weeks ago and proven false.
17 posted on 12/16/2015 8:23:39 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: SteveAustin
Thjs isn’t a disqualifier for me

It is for me. I don't really mind a shift in positions. I think Cruz's position back then was within the realm of the mainstream back then, until Trump shifted the mainstream. The problem is that Cruz is claiming he NEVER supported it, and he's been devious about this issue the entire campaign cycle. Switching your position at some point is one thing. Lying to millions of people on live TV, that's an entirely different thing.

18 posted on 12/16/2015 8:23:57 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Stentor

Re:So let’s see how the trumpholes defend that.
Just remember, when your nether parts get Cruzty, go deep with that washcloth.

I don’t know what that means, but it sure as hell ain’t a defense.

Maybe you can tell us how trump is such a great businessman, and delineate how that squares with his multiple bankruptcies.
But I doubt you can.
Go for it.


19 posted on 12/16/2015 8:24:45 PM PST by brickdds
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To: demshateGod
You are a dishonest pile of Obama for posting this crap. This has already been posted weeks ago and proven false.

This was never proven false. Cruz's defenders aren't dealing with the actual issues, but, like Cruz, are trying to talk fast on entirely different subjects, and can't and won't explain why Cruz would support legalization even AFTER the Gang of Eight fight was over.

20 posted on 12/16/2015 8:25:06 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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