Posted on 12/16/2015 11:17:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Yes, we let idiots vote, and idiots can be counted on to vote for crapweasel's like Obama.
No Vote for Idiots!
I guess Team 0dunga feels satisfied now that the expansion of the Caliphate into Europe and the U.S. via ‘refugees’ is now sufficient so the administration can ease up on stoking the civil war there by no longer arming anti-Assad forces.
“I assure you Assad can stay with the Russians standing there. Was there any question? He never did anything to us anyway. I never understood the war mongering against his government anyway.”
His govt was accused of killing muslims, the worst offense imaginable to Oburka. Much much worse than muslims killing American civilians.
Ignoring Iran, Turkey, HAMAS, Russia, Saudi Arabia, the Kurds and ISIS, wasn’t Assad just going after local Jihadis and vice versa?
This is the best explanation I seen, from; DJ Taylor. :-)
A briefing on Syria:
President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning.
But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good).
So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.
By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS (which is a good thing) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they’re good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.
Getting back to Syria. President Putin (bad, as he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?
But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).
Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.
So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.
Now the British (obviously good, except Corbyn who is probably bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).
So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that mad ayatollah in Iran (also good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).
To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (doh!).
Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point) and hence we will be seen as bad.
So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?
I hope that this clears it all up for you.
Whatever Zero Hedge says, the opposite is probably true.
Assad’s image has been taken off their currency, is this total humiliation for Assad?
He did and he won lots of medals!!!!!
Putin had a copy of Kerry’s DD214
The Obama administrations declaration years ago that Assad must go, particularly after the failed outcomes of the “Arab Spring” shows just how stupid and insane this administration is.
Yes, leaders in many of these nations are not nice folks, but they also are dealing with factions and radicals that will kill each other in a heartbeat given a chance, so to rule and keep any semblance of a nation state functioning they have to use what the west would consider repressive acts. If they didn’t their nations would fall and collapse in less than a year.
The Arab Spring thing was destined to fail, but Obama et all praised it and of course it lead to chaos, demanding assad to go was stupid... all that would do is give the fundamentalists another nation to run.
I disagree. The first ME uprising was in Iran. This was a legitimate uprising to topple a Muslim theocracy. They weren’t “rebels” and armed militants. They were, essentially, large segments of Iranian society that wanted western freedoms.
The demonstrations were massive and the people unarmed. They begged for foreign aid, especially from the US. Obama turned his back on them. Whether or not the U.S. should have gotten involved is open for debate. They were brutally put down by the mullahs.
Next was Egypt. Egypt was one of the few U.S. allies in the region. They even acknowledged Israel. They posed no national security risk to the U.S. The militants were Muslim Brotherhood and allied with the Palestinians. That was known. Obama supported them. The Muslim Brotherhood toppled the government and began a reign of corruption and terror. The military eventually had to take over.
Then there was Libya. Colonel Madman Mo was a nasty piece of work and a terrorist. After they pulled Saddam Hussein out of his hidey hole Mad Mo was scared to death and began fully cooperating with the west and was no longer a danger. When he started dealing with Islamic militants, guess who Obama supported? Yep. The Islamic militants.
Then there was Assad. He is another bad dude but he never posed an existential threat to the United States. He is also a rational player. Israel could keep him in check for the most part, even with Iranian support and both of them funding Hezbollah. Who does Obama support? Islamic militants and rebels of unknown ideology. We call them ISIS. He calls them ISIL.
Obama is only interested in watching the world burn, expanding Islam and his fundamental transformation of the United States. He is one of the most successful presidents in U.S. history. Unfortunately.
Obama admin didn’t demand Assad to go until the Assads, who helped kill 250 Marines btw per most sources btw, done by their allies Hezbollah, was accused of gassing his own people and that is 2012, further the Bush admin complained to the Syrian government when Assad allowed Jihadis to operate against American forces in Iraq, Jihadis even had camps in Syria. This is all historic record.
I agree with you. I am not afraid of Assad. I am afraid of the Syrian refugees, the Pakistanis on fiance visas and others from 3rd world countries who are flooding into this country.
There were two important events recently, perhaps yesterday
Taken together the mist obscuring the future parted somewhat
Kerry went to Russia with the result that he made statements indication the USA might not insist on removing Assad
The Saudi’s announced an arab intention to enter the fray
The events are connected.
Assad will be allowed to remain within his partitioned area of former Syria.
The Sunnis will together rid the Euphrates valley of Isis and establish a Sunni Nation and a Kurdish nation in the former Syrian and Iraqi areas.
Un answered was where the new lines will be drawn and how close to Baghdad does the sunni Euphrates valley control extend? is Mosul kurdish or Sunni?
Obama/Kerry was a bystander who went to Russia where he was allowed to sign on
Funny. Actually the truth about the chlorine gas is that it was released by Isis on their own communities and falsely blamed on Assad. That was proven later when the chlorine stockpiles were found in the Isis arsenal.
Kerry,s dd214.......
What has Snowden contributed to Putin’s bargaining position?
The Ruskies know something.
Great analyses! Obama is a Muslim sympathizer 100%
You’re only saying that because it never has been.
“I suspect that Obama is the creation of the Russians, and that is why he has never bested Putin-—because he works for Putin. As does Kerry.”
Remember the Russian spy team suddenly discovered right after the Fraud’s coronation we couldn’t send back fast enough?
I think they were the insertion team, there to finalize the “cleanup” of Hussein’s documentation worries.
Ukraine, Crimea and whatever else Putin wants was the cost.
Russia would never put such an incompetent in power over the USA—They train their people better than that. If Obama was KGB—we would have an alliance with Russia-—with the 101 airborn in Iraq to hit Mosul while the Russians have the 24st Parachure divion ready to take Allepo. Putin would be in Kiev too—overseeing a new treaty with Ukaine—Russia gets resources, and land, Kiev gets snow.
LOL.
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