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The Humiliation Is Complete: Assad Can Stay, Kerry Concedes After Meeting With Putin
Zero Hedge ^ | 12/15/2015 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 12/16/2015 11:17:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Back on September 20 (so, a full ten days before a three star Russian general strolled into the US Embassy in Baghdad to let the US know that airstrikes in Syria “start in 1 hour”), we said that the US strategy in Syria had officially unraveled. 

At the time, John Kerry had just concluded a meeting with British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond in London. "For the last year and a half we have said Assad has to go, but how long and what the modality is, that's a decision that has to be made in the context of the Geneva process and negotiation,” Kerry told reporters after the meeting. "It doesn't have to be on day one or month one [and] there is a process by which all the parties have to come together and reach an understanding of how this can best be achieved."

“That this a far, far cry from the hardline rhetoric the US was still clinging to just months ago,” we said, adding that “it marks a tacit recognition of what should have been obvious from the very beginning: the US backed effort to assist Qatar and the Saudis in destabilizing the Assad regime was doomed from the start.”

About a month later, ahead of talks in Vienna, WSJ said the following about Washington's plans for Assad: 

The Obama administration entered a crucial round of international talks on Syria’s war prepared to accept a deal that leaves President Bashar al-Assad in place for several months or more during the transition to a new government.

 

The U.S. shift on the dictator’s future caps months of backtracking on the most significant obstacle to a resolution of the Syrian conflict. While U.S. officials once argued Mr. Assad couldn't take part in a political transition, they have gradually eased that stance, eventually signaling he wouldn’t have to step down immediately. Now they are planning to negotiate the question of his future in talks being held Friday in Vienna.

The solution Washington sought to broker would "not prejudge the Assad question," a senior administration official told The Journal.

Of course the Assad "question" has already been "prejudged" - only not by Washington or any of its regional allies. As we've been at pains to explain, Tehran isn't going to allow a US puppet government to be installed in Damascus. It's out of the question. Losing Damascus to Washington and worse, to Riyadh, would severely impair Iran's supply lines to Hezbollah and roll back Iranian influence in the region. For Russia, the stakes are also high. Moscow now has an air base and a naval base in Syria and establishing a foothold in Syria is the first step for The Kremlin on the way to supplanting the US as Mid-East superpower puppet master. In short, even is Assad himself ultimately abdicate, the regime (and our apologies for anyone who finds that term pejorative) will remain in one form or another.

On Tuesday, Kerry was in Russia for talks with Vladimir Putin. As Foreign Policy notes, America's top diplomat was "wicked psyched" that he found a Dunkin Donuts in Moscow:

As for negotiations with Putin over Syria, it appears the humiliation is now complete. 

As AP reports, "U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday accepted Russia's long-standing demand that President Bashar Assad's future be determined by his own people, as Washington and Moscow edged toward putting aside years of disagreement over how to end Syria's civil war." 

"The United States and our partners are not seeking so-called regime change," Kerry said, adding that the focus is no longer "on our differences about what can or cannot be done immediately about Assad." 

In a testament to the fact that mainstream media is beginning to understand just how weak America's negotiating position has become, AP offered the following rather sarcastic assessment: 

President Barack Obama first called on Assad to leave power in the summer of 2011, with "Assad must go" being a consistent rallying cry. Later, American officials allowed that he wouldn't have to resign on "Day One" of a transition. Now, no one can say when Assad might step down

Kerry also called demands by the "moderate" opposition that Assad step down before peace negotiations begin an "obvious nonstarter." 

But even as Kerry and Sergei Lavrov hailed the talks as a "big negotiating day," Lavrov's de facto deputy, the sharp-tongued Maria Zakharova, stressed that "serious differences" remain between the US and Russia with regard to Syria. 

One point of contention is Washington's insistence on differentiating between "moderate" and "non-moderate" elements operating to oust the Assad government.  

That and other pressing issues are expected to be discussed next week in New York at what Kerry says will be a "major international conference" on Syria. 

As for relations between Moscow and Washington, Kerry said this: "There is no policy of the United States, per se, to isolate Russia." 

Right. No "per se" policy. So in other words, it may not be an explicit, de jure mandate, but it sure as hell seems like a tacit, de facto foreign policy position.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assad; bombtheshitoutofthem; elections; hanoijohn; immigration; isis; johnkerry; kerry; moratorium; muslim; putin; russia; secstate; syria; tehranjohn; traitor; trump; trumpwasright; worstnegotiatorever
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1 posted on 12/16/2015 11:17:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Eyewitnesses reported that Kerry was walking bowlegged out of the meeting...


2 posted on 12/16/2015 11:20:15 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did Kerry serve in Vietnam?


3 posted on 12/16/2015 11:21:06 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind

There was an article a few months back about how someone from the Pentagon was quoted as saying that right now, we are Putin’s “prison bitch.” As true as it was then, sadly, its even more true now.


4 posted on 12/16/2015 11:21:54 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Did Putin send Mr. Ketchup to pick up donuts?? Wouldn't surprise me.

5 posted on 12/16/2015 11:22:33 AM PST by BerniesFriend (I am BerniesFriend, however it's really Bernadette, NOT Bernie Sanders friend!!!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I assure you Assad can stay with the Russians standing there. Was there any question? He never did anything to us anyway. I never understood the war mongering against his government anyway.


6 posted on 12/16/2015 11:22:39 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/world/obama-says-russia-may-finally-come-around-on-assads-future/


7 posted on 12/16/2015 11:24:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

Traffic was bad, so Putin suggested Kerry ride a bike from the meeting.

Seriously, though, We know Obama was reared in communist/Muslim circles; and Kerry s a Communist from at least 1970 when he thought he could act as an intermediary for the NVA at the Paris Peace talks.

I suspect that Obama is the creation of the Russians, and that is why he has never bested Putin-—because he works for Putin. As does Kerry.

The Iran deal is another example of them selling out America. And Russia is an ally of Iran.

Our country is in grave danger.


8 posted on 12/16/2015 11:26:15 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SeekAndFind

Red line, schmed line.


9 posted on 12/16/2015 11:26:27 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama/Hillary started the Syrian Civil War 100’s of thousands dead millions on the run ,OK he can stay , Oh My


10 posted on 12/16/2015 11:26:41 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind
The Humiliation Is Complete: Assad Can Stay, Kerry Concedes After Meeting With Putin

Two little sorority girls (Obama and Kerry) were no match for Putin.

11 posted on 12/16/2015 11:28:12 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: WENDLE

Obama is a 98 lb bully


12 posted on 12/16/2015 11:29:27 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: 2banana

That is what the rice in his ass says.


13 posted on 12/16/2015 11:29:41 AM PST by Redleg Duke (The Federal Government is nothing but a welfare program with a dress code!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ME cannot be governed by less than full scale tyranny.


14 posted on 12/16/2015 11:31:20 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ME cannot be governed by less than full scale tyranny.


15 posted on 12/16/2015 11:31:20 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind
"On Tuesday, Kerry was in Russia for talks with Vladimir Putin."

I'll bet Putin never even bothers to stop by the venue where Kerry is allowed to talk to some low level staffer for a few minutes.

16 posted on 12/16/2015 11:31:56 AM PST by Baynative (Liberty lost is a high price to pay for the experiment of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

WE can’t pick the leader of another soverign nation? Dark days indeed.


17 posted on 12/16/2015 11:32:45 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: WENDLE

Assad stands in the way of the caliphate.


18 posted on 12/16/2015 11:33:52 AM PST by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: Cowboy Bob
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19 posted on 12/16/2015 11:34:37 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: WENDLE
I assure you Assad can stay with the Russians standing there. Was there any question? He never did anything to us anyway. I never understood the war mongering against his government anyway.

Let me explain it as I understand it.

George Bush took out Saddam Hussein.

Mouthy affirmative action man-child felt that he would Top what George Bush did by taking out Morsi (Egypt) Ghadaffi (Lybia) and Assad (Syria.) (See? Three to George Bush's one.)

This was all about Obama looking more glorious than George Bush. The US Foreign policy was nothing more than the deliberate Vanity play of an arrogant little narcissistic bastard.

If you look at the whole thing as Obama attempting to portray himself as better than Bush, every bit of this fiasco starts to make sense.

Plus he hates white Christians and likes to advance Muslim causes anyway.

20 posted on 12/16/2015 11:35:25 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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