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1 posted on 12/12/2015 1:47:07 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

It is not cheating and more power to him. But don’t complain when Trump “attacks” Cruz. It’s part of the game, a clash was inevitable, and these are big boys playing to win.


2 posted on 12/12/2015 1:48:57 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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I thought she was an independent pollster.


3 posted on 12/12/2015 1:49:02 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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No worries eh?


4 posted on 12/12/2015 1:49:40 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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Whew boy! This is the kind of trouble that having a SuperPAC can get you.


5 posted on 12/12/2015 1:50:09 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Every 4 years FReepers start screaming for a brokered convention.

If it isn’t cheating when we want one it isn’t cheating when we don’t.


7 posted on 12/12/2015 1:51:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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Astonishing.

If that is the Cruz position (and I dont know 100% for certain), then if he’s in the same spot, I’m not shedding any tears if it happens to him.

Don’t brag about “standing up to the GOPe” and then say
“yeah, they can cheat” just because you think it might benefit you.


8 posted on 12/12/2015 1:51:10 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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The latest BS.

Trump vs Cruz grudgematch.

Laughable.

Add to the list...

Donald Trump isn`t Serious
Donald Trump is a Clown
Donald Trump lost ESPN and Macys
Donald Trump invited Hillary to his wedding
Donald Trump has no specifics
Donald Trump calls people Stupid
Donald Trump is opposed to *all* Immigration
Donald Trump makes fun of Womens appearance
Donald Trump mocks people with disabilities
Donald Trump has no government experience
Donald Trump wants to ban *all* muslims
Donald Trump will not be the nominee
Donald Trump is Hitler
Donald Trump is getting too much media coverage
Donald Trump met with Bill Clinton 7 weeks before his decision to run


9 posted on 12/12/2015 1:51:21 PM PST by Eddie01
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Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh....so that explains WHY she is so anti-Trump, when she's on FNC.

Calling her a "pollster" is FRAUD/A LIE; she's on the Cruz team.

10 posted on 12/12/2015 1:52:02 PM PST by nopardons
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Not a good sign.


13 posted on 12/12/2015 1:55:06 PM PST by McGruff (I don't know if sand can glow in the dark, but we’re going to find out - Ted Cruz)
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I have no respect for, nor would I vote for, a opportunist who actually thought they could win after a brokered convention.

I do not care about the past. I would shun them.


14 posted on 12/12/2015 1:55:17 PM PST by dforest
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Now we have seen the opportunist TPP/amnesty flipflopping cruz’s real colors. Especially with his donor comments.

At least Carson has his honesty. Cruz is a pawn (maybe a useful idiot if he thinks they’ll actually put him on the ticket), of his establishment donors, who will back an establishment candidate that’s ‘acceptable’.


15 posted on 12/12/2015 1:55:31 PM PST by fg566asd
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I have been attacking the “plurality” principle for nominations since it became clear how it was working for Romney.

It makes zero sense to declare a guy with 29% the “winner” if 71% are unalterably opposed to him.

MAYBE in a final election (although I prefer runoffs to get to 51%), but in a nomination contest with multiple points of view and multiple candidates contending, if you get 29% of the votes you should get 29% of the delegates, more or less, and if after that process nobody has 50% + 1 (although I would go back to the 67% rule in a second), then let the convention work it out.

The delegates aren’t just there for the hookers, at least in theory.


17 posted on 12/12/2015 1:55:43 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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Don’t worry Ted you won’t have make any “agonizing” decisions during the convention. Rest easy fella.


19 posted on 12/12/2015 1:56:25 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.VE)
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Yes it is cheating, it's circumventing the will of the people.


22 posted on 12/12/2015 1:59:21 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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Ah, the spin.

"Both of them I like and respect," said Mr. Cruz, according to an audio recording of his comments provided by one attendee. "I don't believe either one of them is going to be our president."

But he added, "You look at Paris, you look at San Bernardino, it's given a seriousness to this race, that people are looking for: Who is prepared to be a commander in chief? Who understands the threats we face?"

He went on: "Who am I comfortable having their finger on the button? Now that's a question of strength, but it's also a question of judgment. And I think that is a question that is a challenging question for both of them."

Is there an inference? Yes. Does Cruz says either Carson or Trump lacks the judgement to be president? No.


24 posted on 12/12/2015 2:00:45 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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Someone educate me.

Isn’t it premature to talk about a brokered convention, and what would happen at such a convention?

Shouldn’t we let the primary and caucus process play out, and see if a nominee emerges from the process, before we all get bent out of shape about a convention which goes beyond the 1st ballot????

What am I missing??? Don’t they already have rules and bylaws and such, about how to proceed, if nobody gets 50%+1 on the first ballot of the convention????


26 posted on 12/12/2015 2:01:05 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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What are these people smoking? Total GOP suicide to even be talking about it.


28 posted on 12/12/2015 2:01:55 PM PST by AdaGray
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I’ll bet the freeloading, low information DemocRAT voters are glad that they don’t have to choose who they want as their nominee. They don’t get a choice. They’re stuck with Slick Willie’s wife. Not having to decide saves the few remaining brain cells that they have left.


29 posted on 12/12/2015 2:03:01 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Obama says, the Second Amendment is the greatest recruiting tool that ISIS has.)
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In the absence of a required majority vote, there should be no problem with candidates uniting against the top vote-getter. That’s why a majority vote is chosen as the threshold in the first place. Happens all the time at nominating conventions.

Americans have become so used to not participating at the state and local levels that normal and essential processes can be called cheating with a straight face.


32 posted on 12/12/2015 2:04:42 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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That is a PAC for Cruz and he has no control over a PAC. That woman is wrong about a brokered convention but Cruz cannot stop her from saying that as that would be against the law that governs PACs.

If Trump gets the required number of delegates on the first convention vote, he will definitely be the candidate. If he doesn't get enough delegate votes, it will be a brokered convention. States are different in how they hold their delegates for a candidate. Some have a rule, after the first vote, if no candidate has the required number of votes, the delegates may change their vote. Some states keep their delegates true to the candidate on very vote and it varies between states.

34 posted on 12/12/2015 2:06:33 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today.))
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