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Terri Schiavo case disqualifies Ben Carson and Jeb Bush for presidency: pro-life leader
LifeSiteNews ^ | 11/17/15 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 11/18/2015 6:54:12 AM PST by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, D.C., November 17, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - The words of Dr. Ben Carson, and the actions of Gov. Jeb Bush, disqualify them both from serving as president of the United States, a leading pro-life leader said today.

"We have seen what it is like to have a president who does not value every life equally, and we certainly do not need another," said Troy Newman, the president of Operation Rescue. "In my opinion, Ben Carson's statement dismissing Terri's life as 'nothing,' and Jeb Bush's failure to take action to save Terri, has disqualified them both from the office of president."

Over the weekend Dr. Ben Carson, one of the current front runners for the Republican presidential nomination, dismissed the Terri Schiavo case as "much ado about nothing."

Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler, said yesterday that "Dr. Carson owes every pro-life advocate an apology."

Schindler, who later opened the Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network to advocate for brain injured patients around the country, said, if elected president, Ben Carson would "represent a one-man death panel."

Rev. Pat Mahoney, the leader of the Christian Defense Coalition, said, "It is hard to imagine any more insensitive and uncaring language describing the tragic circumstances of Terri Schiavo's death."

"With comments like this, one shudders at what kind of Presidential policies he would have concerning end-of-life issues and working with the disability community," Rev. Mahoney said.

Dr. Carson had previously concerned pro-life voters by saying he had referred pregnant women to abortionists if their babies suffer from fetal anomalies and declaring it would be "foolish" not to use the organs of aborted babies for medical research.

Jeb Bush, who was governor of Florida during the Terri Schiavo case, intervened to try to save her life from a court order depriving her of all food and hydration.

However, he backed down from a last ditch effort that may have saved Schiavo's life, according to local media. Jeb Bush appealed an order issued by Pinellas-Pasco County Circuit Judge George W. Greer to deny Schiavo the nourishment keeping her alive. Under Florida law, that appeal suspended the existing order.

Jeb Bush issued the appeal at 8:15 a.m. on Saturday, March 26, 2005. Gov. Bush ordered the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) to enter the Hospice House Woodside in Pinellas Park and reinsert her feeding tube at that time. But when city police and county sheriff's officials stood their ground, he reversed himself.

“The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,” an unnamed city police official told the Miami Herald. “When the sheriff’s department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.”

Just before 11 a.m., Judge Greer found out about the appeal and legally blocked state officials from taking any further action.

Terri Schiavo died five days later.

Jeb Bush has also concerned pro-life Republicans, saying he would have no pro-life "litmus test" for future Supreme Court nominees, saying "of course" he supports exceptions for abortion in the case of rape and incest, and floating attack ads painting his former protege Marco Rubio as too pro-life to win the general election.

After leaving office, Jeb Bush sat on the board of Bloomberg Philanthropies, which launched a worldwide campaign to loosen abortion restrictions in pro-life countries, in partnership with Planned Parenthood Global. Bush served in that capacity until last December, shortly before launching his presidential campaign.

The Ben Carson presidential campaign told LifeSiteNews it would issue a comment today. However, no comment has been issued by the close of business.


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"In my opinion, Ben Carson's statement dismissing Terri's life as 'nothing,' and Jeb Bush's failure to take action to save Terri, has disqualified them both from the office of president."

Exactly right.

1 posted on 11/18/2015 6:54:12 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 11/18/2015 6:54:33 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 11/18/2015 6:55:29 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 11/18/2015 6:56:38 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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When is Dr. Carson going to blame the attack media for asking him a “gotcha’” question? (sarcasm)


5 posted on 11/18/2015 7:01:13 AM PST by grania
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Carson lost me with his endorsement of statehood for Puerto Rico, so this just adds one more nail in his coffin.

And Bush’s (and his brother “W”’s) response to poor Schiavo was nothing short of disgusting.

Besides, Bush would make a better Democrat candidate than Republican.


6 posted on 11/18/2015 7:01:37 AM PST by laweeks
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Carson was losing me after his gun comments and amnesty, but after the island should be a state then that was it for me.


7 posted on 11/18/2015 7:02:56 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Terri’s situation was a serious matter. Carson shouldn’t have trivialized it (if he actually did).

However, the entire nation didn’t need to be brought into the debate over what to do.


8 posted on 11/18/2015 7:24:17 AM PST by cymbeline
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However, the entire nation didn't need to be brought into the debate over what to do.

Nonsense, Terri's murder was a pivotal case in American history.

The media used Terri's murder as a test case to see how America would react when death panels were established.

An INNOCENT AMERICAN was murdered by judicial order without due process of law, that's an important event.

9 posted on 11/18/2015 7:42:18 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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” Nonsense, Terri’s murder was a pivotal case in American history.

The media used Terri’s murder as a test case to see how America would react when death panels were established.”

NAILED it!!


10 posted on 11/18/2015 7:47:17 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read)
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To: wagglebee

The fact that he was referring women to get abortions disqualifies him, in my mind. This bit about Terri just supports the idea that he is not, and never has been, pro-life.


11 posted on 11/18/2015 8:23:52 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("We have too many high sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them." Abigail Adams)
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An INNOCENT AMERICAN was murdered by judicial order without due process of law, that's an important event.

...by the order of a third-rate probate judge, on hearsay from a husband with highly questionable motives, represented by an attorney who was also an outspoken advocate of euthanasia.
12 posted on 11/18/2015 8:34:17 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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Make no mistake. Dr. Carson did indeed trivialze Teri’s plight with his words, “a big ado about nothing”. There’s no escaping the facts that he did say those words and those words clearly trivialize her situation.

I am honestly flabbergasted he has made it this far and with so much success at this stage of the race. It speaks to the utter disdain most primary voters have for the establishment at this point certainly, but it’s time his supporters give up on the fantasy of electing “our own version of an unqualified black man for president”. (Because let’s face it that’s exactly what has carried him for the most part all this time)

That novelty has come and gone and is out of the barn, left the station and is no longer visible in the rear view mirror! The good doctor is DONE!


13 posted on 11/18/2015 8:34:34 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Deo volente
All excellent points!
14 posted on 11/18/2015 8:35:53 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Politicalkiddo

I think he is “pro-life” probably like most of the country (at least the moderate squishes). He thinks abortion is “wrong, personally” but he “would never think to tell a woman what to do with her body”.

Yeah, he’s that kind of “pro-life”, no doubt.


15 posted on 11/18/2015 8:36:34 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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Besides, Bush would make a better Democrat candidate than Republican.

You mean he isn't a Democrat? I thought he was the token democrat at the debates, you know reaching across the aisle and all that.

16 posted on 11/18/2015 8:51:12 AM PST by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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I think he is "pro-life" probably like most of the country (at least the moderate squishes). He thinks abortion is "wrong, personally" but he "would never think to tell a woman what to do with her body".

Yeah, he's that kind of "pro-life", no doubt.

Which is the exact same position as nearly all Democrats and most Republicans.

17 posted on 11/18/2015 8:57:16 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Absolutely. The words Carson spoke about Terri absolutely disqualify him.

Terri was NOT DYING. She died only because she was murdered.

The Governor of Terri’s state let himself be intimidated by a pipsqueak probate judge. The Governor hid under his desk while a murder was carried out over a period of days and days. The Governor permitted POLICE to be used to threaten with arrest any person giving Terri a drop of water. (Just as EVERY Governor of EVERY state, for forty-two years, has permitted the police to threaten, and to arrest, anyone attempting to rescue a baby from murder.)


18 posted on 11/18/2015 9:11:19 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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Terri was NOT DYING. She died only because she was murdered.

It's astonishing how many people fail to realize that ANYONE will die if they have hydration and nutrition withheld for a long enough period of time.

19 posted on 11/18/2015 9:25:02 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The Legal Industry murdered Terri Schiavo and Carson says it was not important.

Go away, I will not vote for you.

20 posted on 11/18/2015 9:41:09 AM PST by TYVets
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