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Why Moderate Republicans Keep Winning the Nomination
atlanticsentinal.com ^ | 11/6/15 | Nick Ottens

Posted on 11/07/2015 8:39:55 AM PST by cotton1706

Republican voters in blue states have more power than Republican voters in red states.

Conservative activists in the United States like to complain that there is a Republican “establishment” keeping their candidates from winning presidential nominations. Given how far to the right Republicans have veered in recent years — to the point where Mitt Romney felt he had to reinvent himself as a strong rightwinger four years ago to win the nomination — such laments may seem incredible.

Turns out they have a point.

FiveThirtyEight reports that Republicans in Democratic-voting states have a disproportionate influence in the party’s primary elections.

Just one in five Republican senators and only one in ten Republican representatives in the House come from states and districts that voted for Barack Obama in 2012. Yet those same states have more delegates at stake in the party’s presidential nominating contest: 1,247 against 1,166 from states that Romney won last time.

This explains why Republicans have selected relatively moderate presidential nominees while the party’s members in Congress have continued to veer right.

Part of the reason is demographics. Blue states — those that vote for Democrats — tend to be more populous, hence they have more delegates in both parties’ primaries.

But the Republican Party also has unique rules that benefit blue states more than red ones.

The Republican National Committee allows state parties to decide whether to award their delegates — who formally nominate the party’s presidential candidate at a national convention in July — on a winner-takes-all or a proportionate basis. Most opt for the latter.

(Excerpt) Read more at atlanticsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
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They like the game to be fixed AGAINST conservative. Only the Goldwater draft and the Reagan tidal wave have defeated them. But we may be seeing them defeated again!

We've had enough of the Willkie-Dewey-Eisenhower-Nixon-Ford-Bush-Dole-Bush-McCain-Romney-Bush game plan!

1 posted on 11/07/2015 8:39:56 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
Why Moderate Republicans Keep Winning the Nomination

In part, because we have a lot of new Freepers and trolls that are jerks and gleem on stories like the lying Politico DemoRAT hack piece on Ben Carson.

Too many here are just too ready to believe the DemoRAT drive-bies.

2 posted on 11/07/2015 8:44:55 AM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: cotton1706

Well it used to be that Iowa was conservative so that was not a problem and New Hampshire was a toss up but then you went to South Carolina and back to conservative. But Iowa changed and now is more moderate. Plus having all those states on Super Tuesday does hut smaller candidates who tend to be conservative. Plus our country is not as conservative as it once was. No pitch forks or even yelling and screaming on gay marriage or even Obamacare. Nothing. I guess we have immuned ourselves on being screwed.


3 posted on 11/07/2015 8:45:14 AM PST by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: cotton1706

It’s fixed. There are slightly more delegates from liberal states than conservative ones and if that doesn’t tip the balance, the establishment has enough party chosen delegates to make up the difference.

A conservative can certainly win a rigged game. But, it is rigged.

If you’re a conservative, the establishment really wants you to remember your place and role on the GOP plantation. You’re supposed to keep quiet until we get to the “Not voting for the establishment hack is the same as voting for the democrat” phase of the election...


4 posted on 11/07/2015 8:48:00 AM PST by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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To: cotton1706

5 posted on 11/07/2015 8:49:03 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (“!...��...â€Ã¢â€šÂ…ââ‚Â)
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To: cotton1706

I am not voting for any more moderates for president. If a conservative is nominated I will gladly vote for that person otherswise I am staying hiome. The GOP must be taught a lesson.


6 posted on 11/07/2015 8:49:18 AM PST by Cubs Fan ( liberalism=totalitarianism- http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/the-new-totalitarians-are-here/)
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To: napscoordinator

The person who wrote this is a top down democrat who lives in a control freak party... Trust me, he doesn’t ‘get it’ anymore than a communist understands how we figure out what to charge for consumer goods.


7 posted on 11/07/2015 8:49:24 AM PST by GOPJ (policy debates rather then journalists clowns posturing and mugging for their fellow journalistsMNJ.)
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To: napscoordinator

....Or maybe just a bit more fearful?


8 posted on 11/07/2015 8:50:59 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Cubs Fan
I am not voting for any more moderates for president. If a conservative is nominated I will gladly vote for that person otherswise I am staying hiome. The GOP must be taught a lesson.

Same here, not to teach GOP a lesson but because I won't care. I stuck with Republicans through the Romney debacle, not doing it again.

9 posted on 11/07/2015 8:52:29 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Cubs Fan
You forgot the word 'again'

The GOP must be taught a lesson. ... again

The tactic of holding out until Jesus returns will .... wait until Jesus returns

10 posted on 11/07/2015 8:54:44 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: celmak

Sounds like FReepers need to take advantage of opportunities to teach conservatism to those who are new or have gaps in their understanding of what conservatism is. I agreed the audience, even here at FreeRepublic, is large.


11 posted on 11/07/2015 8:54:54 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: napscoordinator

No pitchforks?

Really?

The conservatives just staged a mutiny and made the Captain walk the plank. Before that, they knifed his executive officer (Cantor). Before he walked, the 3rd in command (McCarthy) took a close hard look at his immediate future and laid down resistance to the mutiny.

Paul Ryan is a victory. The first, second, and third choices of the establishment were tossed aside and I promise you, Ryan has eyes in the back of his head. Plus, he almost certainly traded his current gig for a future pretty boy run at the White House, another victory against some future alternate reality.

And look at the Monarchy. The King’s son and heir is polling 4%. FOUR PERCENT.

The pitchforks are out and the revolution is underway.


12 posted on 11/07/2015 8:55:23 AM PST by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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To: Kenny

see my #10


13 posted on 11/07/2015 8:56:07 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: celmak

Carson has more problems that that one.

The Conservatives on the forum are aware of that.


14 posted on 11/07/2015 8:59:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. (Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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To: cotton1706

Wondering if most of the Blue States allow cross over voting in the primaries. That is a joke and the Republican Party shouldn’t stand for it. If the state legislature won’t correct the law then the party should strip the delegates away and create a caucus selection instead.


15 posted on 11/07/2015 9:03:59 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: cotton1706

Rush has said numerous times there is no such thing as an independent.

Let me carry this to those that are referred to or claim to be “moderates”.

There is no such thing as a “moderate”. Wastes of human flesh such as McCain and Mitt are not even close to meeting a definition of moderate in my book. They are liberal RINO’s that are too chicken to stand up to the left, so they’d rather just join them. Their oaths of office regarding defending the Constitution is just a muttering motion they must go through in order to get the job.


16 posted on 11/07/2015 9:08:53 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Carson has more problems that that one.

All the Republican candidates have "problems". Not as many as Hillary; but does that mean we should be telling everyone else that we agree with what the DemoRAT hacks say about them? The guns are facing the wrong way.

17 posted on 11/07/2015 9:12:45 AM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: Tallguy

I can’t imagine why, but NY still requires you to be registered in the party of the primary in which you are voting. Of course, there’s nothing stopping dems from changing their registration for devious reasons.


18 posted on 11/07/2015 9:14:27 AM PST by ntnychik
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To: cotton1706

I’m not GOP, I’m simply here to troll on RINOS and screw up their elections by voting for conservatives!


19 posted on 11/07/2015 9:18:14 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: cotton1706

And every single Conservative vote is further diluted by the votes of Democrats in open Primaries doing their very best to dispatch the opposition through every single ballot opportunity available!!!


20 posted on 11/07/2015 9:19:03 AM PST by LTC.Ret
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