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Yellowstone-area grizzlies no longer need protection
Reuters ^ | 11-13-15 | Laura Zuckerma

Posted on 11/03/2015 3:03:30 PM PST by SJackson

SALMON, Idaho (Reuters) - Federal wildlife managers have determined that grizzly bear numbers in and around Yellowstone National Park have rebounded sufficiently to propose stripping the animals of U.S. Endangered Species Act protections in the months ahead, a spokesman told Reuters.

The latest count of grizzlies in the Yellowstone region puts the estimated population of the hump-shouldered bruins at just over 750, well exceeding the government's recovery goal of 500 animals, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

That compares with just 136 believed left in the Yellowstone ecosystem - encompassing parts of Wyoming, Montana and Idaho - when grizzlies were formally listed as threatened throughout the Lower 48 states in 1975, after they were hunted, trapped and poisoned to near extinction.

Sportsmen and ranchers, who make up a powerful political constituency in Western states, have strongly advocated de-listing grizzlies, arguing that their growing numbers pose a threat to humans, livestock and big-game animals such as elk.

Environmentalists have raised concerns that while grizzlies have made a comeback, their recovery could falter if federal safeguards are lifted, a move that would open the animals to public hunting outside of the national park.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


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1 posted on 11/03/2015 3:03:30 PM PST by SJackson
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Plenty of cattle and humans that might need protection.

2 posted on 11/03/2015 3:04:02 PM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: SJackson

45-70


3 posted on 11/03/2015 3:09:17 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: SJackson

I think the bears have understood this for a while now.

4 posted on 11/03/2015 3:12:02 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SJackson

Montana has a problem with dinner bell grizzlies. Those are grizzlies that hear a gun shot and come running for a easy meal.


5 posted on 11/03/2015 3:12:10 PM PST by Duckdog (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: SJackson
These animals are one of the most dangerous predators on earth:

Most adult female grizzlies weigh 290 to 400 lb, while adult males weigh on average 400 to 790 lb. Average total length in this subspecies is 6.50 ft, with an average shoulder height of 3.35 ft and hindfoot length of 11 in... One study found that the average weight for an inland male grizzly was around 600 lb and the average weight for a coastal male was around 900 lb...

On the other hand, an occasional huge male grizzly has been recorded which greatly exceeds ordinary size, with weights reported up to 1,500 lb. A large coastal male of this size may stand up to 9.8 ft tall on its hind legs and be up to 4.9 ft at the shoulder.

Although variable from blond to nearly black, grizzly bear fur is typically brown in color with white tips. A pronounced hump appears on their shoulders; the hump is a good way to distinguish a black bear from a grizzly bear, as black bears do not have this hump. Aside from the distinguishing hump a grizzly bear can be identified by a "dished in" profile of their face with short, rounded ears whereas a black bear has a straight face profile and longer ears. A grizzly bear can also be identified by their rump which is lower than their shoulders where a black bears rump is higher. A grizzly bear's front claws measure about 2-4 inches in length and a black bear's measure about 1-2 inches in length.

Source: Wikipedia

6 posted on 11/03/2015 3:12:30 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Paladin2

Yes, or a 12 gauge thank you for not bringing up handgun calibers. Of course in a park, be prepared to attract attention with the proper defensive arm. I’ve never seen one in Yellowstone or similar parks, though if they’re legal in Wyoming I don’t think the park can ban them.


7 posted on 11/03/2015 3:12:46 PM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: SJackson
"... though if they’re legal in Wyoming I don’t think the park can ban them."

The Griz? ;-)

I think it's OK to pack in the Park now.

8 posted on 11/03/2015 3:16:51 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Paladin2

Supposed to go by state law, so it should be legal in open carry states. I carry concealed, but have never seen a long arm. Obviously I haven’t attempted to be the guinea pig.


9 posted on 11/03/2015 3:29:36 PM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: SJackson

Been to Yellowstone about five times in the last 10-12 years. Have yet to see one stinking bear.


10 posted on 11/03/2015 3:32:48 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: driftless2

Seen blacks (bears) there, never a grizzly though one probably cruised by my tent one night. Like the wolves, you have to either be lucky or go looking. Which I don’t, my wife doesn’t like bears. The couple times I’ve seen blacks I’ve noticed tourists first. The idiots walk off in the meadows and approach the bears, who don’t eat them. I watch with binoculars.


11 posted on 11/03/2015 3:37:29 PM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: trisham

Bears were cruising around here a bit more than usual this past Summer. I am not sure why.....I was to scared to ask ‘em!


12 posted on 11/03/2015 3:41:36 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: trisham

#6 .... 4.9 ft at the shoulder.
Now imagine you are 6ft tall. That means that is one big big bear. Remember though he is cute and cuddly.


13 posted on 11/03/2015 3:51:24 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: SJackson

As far as lefties are concerned, all animals should be on the endangered species and what few humans they approve of (mainly themselves) should all be vegans.


14 posted on 11/03/2015 3:55:12 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: SJackson

Good thing that I’m not an elk in that park.........


15 posted on 11/03/2015 3:56:01 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: minnesota_bound

Standing height is at as much as 9.8 feet. I’m 5’6”. It is very unlikely that I would survive such an encounter.


16 posted on 11/03/2015 3:57:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bobby.223

We have black bears here, in our yard. It’s a concern.


17 posted on 11/03/2015 3:58:29 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SJackson
Yellowstone's grizzlies were briefly removed from protected status in 2007, but were later re-listed after environmentalists sued, saying the government had failed to account for such factors as climate change.

LOL...they failed to account for plugging in the liberals' phony climate models.

18 posted on 11/03/2015 4:02:31 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: driftless2
Been to Yellowstone about five times in the last 10-12 years. Have yet to see one stinking bear.

And here I thought it was just me having that kind of experience. My wife and I spent 7 days in the Grand Teton & Yelllowstone area in 2009, RV camping in GT. The fellow in the space next to us said a black bear marched right between our spaces at lunch one day but we were out in the park or Jackson WY.

19 posted on 11/03/2015 4:29:01 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: trisham

Same here. They surprised me, (or I surprised them), coming around the corners of the house a few times last summer. Instant almost heart attack, even tho I am ready for it, and make wide corners to help out a bit!


20 posted on 11/03/2015 4:31:32 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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