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Is Paul Ryan Obama’s Puppet? [Brer Rabbit in the Briar Patch]
Red State ^ | November 1, 2015 | Streiff

Posted on 11/02/2015 1:05:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

POLITICO has an interesting piece this weekend which I can only think is an effort by the White House to cripple Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-WI) efforts to achieve a rapprochement with conservatives in general and the Freedom Caucus (HFC) in particular. Titled Obama and Ryan: Covert collaborators, it is unique in being sourced entirely from White House sources.

President Barack Obama and House Speaker Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) haven't had a face-to-face meeting in more than two-and-a-half years. And despite Ryan's election this week and Obama's congratulatory call to him in advance of the vote, there still isn't one scheduled.

But the two already have a good sense of each other-and beside Rep. John Boehner (R-OH), Ryan's probably the House Republican Obama's spent the most time with. And if Obama had to pick a House Republican to be speaker, people who know the president say he'd probably have voted for Ryan himself. There isn't a close runner-up.

The mischief starts early. We are told that Ryan worked hand-in-glove with the White House to sandbag conservatives on the fast track agreement for the Trans Pacific Partnership:

People in both offices note that the two leaders helped produce a bill with bipartisan support and tea-party opposition that the president eagerly signed. They're a lot less eager to talk about what happened behind-the-scenes to get there: significant collaboration between the president's staff in the West Wing and Ryan's staff on the Ways and Means Committee, along with several direct phone calls the White House still won't confirm between Obama and Ryan. Those calls were in part vote counting, in part strategizing about how to avoid looking like they were working together-even though they were.

We learn that Ryan looks like a conservative but he's a man Obama can deal with:

That moment is suddenly where there is a more broad realization at the White House that in addition to there being Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) the elite darling on the right, that there is a Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) who while being very conservative, could also negotiate and get things done," said Gene Sperling, director of Obama's National Economic Council at the time.

We are told that Ryan will be the junior partner in this upcoming "coalition" government:

Obama doesn't see him as an intellectual equal, those people say, but he does see Ryan as "cerebral," "someone who we could talk with."

Seriously? You could randomly choose people from the phone book and two-thirds of them would be Obama's intellectual equal. Is Ryan truly this stupid?

The White House theory on Ryan assumes a dilemma: for the new speaker's immediate political purposes, he can't appear to be working with Obama over his House colleagues, but for his longer term aspirations, he can't afford to continue the pattern of negative stasis that would come from not working with Obama.

So as Obama spends the next 15 months trying to tie up a few loose ends of his own, he'll also essentially try to soften up the new speaker for the next Democratic president they're hoping for-starting to put Ryan on a path toward getting immigration reform through at some point, or actually changing how a Republican Congress deals with a Democratic opposition in the White House, if that's how things end up after next year's elections.

This strikes one as old style Soviet propaganda where a kernel of truth is used to build a fabric of lies. The thing Obama can't stomach is Ryan actually unifying his caucus. His pledge to allow committee chairmen more voice in setting the agenda seems like a good way of buying an initial burst of good will. Having seen the hell Boehner contended with, one has to assume that Ryan wants none that.

One also suspects this bit of mischief has as much to do with roughing Ryan up a bit over announcing that there would be no immigration deal with Obama. Since Obama has begun governing as an internet troll, this would be something to consider. What better way to discredit Ryan's announcement than by saying "he is our boy."

If Ryan is a secret collaborator with Obama, that will become clear in short order and Ryan will discover that play was very shortsighted.


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Ditto for Sen. Harry Reid's fawning remarks about Speaker Ryan.

And Rush Limbaugh repeated this meme.

Shame on you Rush.

Shame.

Obama's never gotten over being lectured by Paul Ryan on Obamacare.

1 posted on 11/02/2015 1:05:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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It’s all about building “wedges” in your opposition’s camp:

Sidney Blumenthal Told Hillary Clinton to Prop Up Un-Electable Republicans

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/01/sidney-blumenthal-told-hillary-clinton-prop-un-electable-republicans/

“............ Blumenthal was so angry that he used all caps and multiple exclamation points at the end of sentences and made numerous spelling errors.

“POLITICAL MALPRACTICE. WHY IS OBAMA TEAM ATTACKING GINGRICH?!?! WHY ARE THEY ACTING AS AN ADJUNCT TO THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGNI’ml,” Blumenthal wrote.

“THEY SHOULD BE CALLING NEVVT ‘FORMIDABLE’ AND POINTING TO POLL SHOWING REPUBLICANS REGARD HIM AS MORE ‘ELECTABLE’ THAN ROMNEY!!!* BUILD UP NEWT WITHOUT EXCITING REPUBLICAN BASE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR ROMNEY,” Blumenthal added.

“THE STRATEGY SHOULD BE TO LIFT NEWT, UNDERMINE ROMNEY, ANYTHING TO PREVENT HIS NOMINATION, CREATE WEDGES WITHIN GOP PRIMARY. WHY IS THE OBAMA TEAM HELPING ROMNEY TRY TO BRING DOWN NEVVTI21?!,” Blumenthal concluded.........”


2 posted on 11/02/2015 1:23:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We’ll know when he shows up orange and crying.


3 posted on 11/02/2015 1:57:32 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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Eddie Munster is the establisment’s whore of choice. Dear leader, the dnc/rnc and the CoC are doing what they can to protect their highly placed asset. Can’t have him appear too close.So they will try to make it seem as if he has distanced himself from them.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Actions will speaker louder than words as Eddie brings up tpp and amnesty in short order.


4 posted on 11/02/2015 1:58:45 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Voting is self-abuse - without the pleasure.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Eddie Munster is also another donut who never had a job in his life. His budgets are a joke. I don’t think this lightweight dummy can read a balance sheet. Yet they prop him up as some sort of financial guru because he worked for Jack Kemp.


5 posted on 11/02/2015 2:11:49 AM PST by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Call me naive, but I watched the John Roberts interview with Paul Ryan on Fox News Sunday.

Expecting to be disappointed, I went away with a glimmer of optimism.

Ryan said some good things; let’s now see how he governs.


6 posted on 11/02/2015 2:14:43 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

You’re naive. He is another amnesty whore. They all mouth conservative platitudes, but do something completely different. The GOPe despise their voters. They are far more comfortable working with Obama than their own constituents.

They talk a good game when it is necessary to get elected. That is all.


7 posted on 11/02/2015 2:46:49 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: SoFloFreeper

Exactly correct.


8 posted on 11/02/2015 2:47:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If you were to choose people ar random from the phone book, you would be unlikely to find another sociopath like Obama.


9 posted on 11/02/2015 2:59:48 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: hopespringseternal

Well, Ryan was already elected Speaker when he was being interviewed. He had DeMint’s support as well as Newt’s. Those two guys don’t strike me as amnesty whores.

I am willing to see how Ryan governs. If he is another Boehner, it’ll be bad for the Republic.


10 posted on 11/02/2015 3:15:11 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
The traitor will do his best to destroy the US for his globalist billionaire owners.
He is a great pathological liar and buying dangerous !
You bought the scam without question.
He lied to us dozens of times about that actual cheap slave labor provisions in that TPP Trojan horse .

He has been ordered to ram through Amnesty and that treasonous TPP in short order for Goldman Sachs, Chamber of crony capitalists !
This fraud has funded obamacare and planned parenthood and entire Barry the Soros budget for two years without any allowed to challenging this budget fiasco.
He is the enemy of any freedom loving US citizen. The DC Establishment posters always out themselves here. Are you really trying to spin La Raza Ryan as a conservative here ? Who are you trying to fool here ?

11 posted on 11/02/2015 4:29:05 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Ryan is Obama’s Puppet?” Is a duck's a$$ waterproof?

Of course!

Paging Captain obvious!!!!!

12 posted on 11/02/2015 4:32:44 AM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN Alfa Team Leader 2nd civil war is coming to the USA)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

of course not

however, the speaker must and does meet with the President but such cordial meeting does not constitute singlemindedness


13 posted on 11/02/2015 4:37:59 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What is there to fight about now that the GOPe has given Obama everything he wants?


14 posted on 11/02/2015 4:48:19 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ryan does not appear to be a man of substance or deep conviction.

His debate performance against Crazy Uncle Joe was cringeworthy for that reason. He lacked the ability to come on strong because he not grounded in clear principles. His voting record (58% CR) confirms this.


15 posted on 11/02/2015 4:51:52 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: SoFloFreeper

>> I am willing to see how Ryan governs.

No full-term Governors.


16 posted on 11/02/2015 4:53:15 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ryan, and his puppet master Mr. RomneyCARE,
are BOTH working with Soros, Romney’s biz partner.

Now you know why Romney attacked Gov. Palin,
and threw the Election of 2012.


17 posted on 11/02/2015 5:00:05 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: bert
Lord you are psych a DC establishment troll.
It Figures since you such a very dedicated Trump hater here.
Trump threatens your DC fat cat crony capitalism train.

http://economyincrisis.org/content/paul-ryan-and-obama-lied-there-is-an-immigration-chapter-in-tpp

You peddling the devious La Raza Ryan at a conservative website !
That nasty lying Billionaire K street sock puppet is our enemy
This traitor will ram thru Amnesty and the treasonous TPP for his real owners like Zuckerberg , Adelson , Koch Brothers and all Silicon Valley !

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/01/29/la-raza-operative-paul-ryan-unveils-newold-amnesty-plan/

18 posted on 11/02/2015 5:11:41 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ncalburt

In your ranting, you overlook the salient fact...... no one else was electable.

Bottom line, that is why Ryan accepted the job


19 posted on 11/02/2015 5:18:41 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Maybe not, but those 2 are definitely insider whores.

Course, I haven’t heard of one whom touted the Constitution w/out having to do a complete 180 when it came down to brass tacks (IE: ‘(corporate) welfare reform’ vs. 5th, ‘improving schools’ vs. 9th/10th)....same as the GOP platform anymore.


20 posted on 11/02/2015 9:15:27 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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