[napscoordinator]

Yeah. Another vote at 3:15 am......I wonder when we will REALLY find out what is in it. I mean we know that SSDI scam is getting 80 percent raise....the drudges of society were supposed to having their welfare dropped by 80 percent. Now they will continue to get 100 percent sitting around watching TV. The military does go back to pre-sequestration times which in a way is ok but stop funding junk the pentagon doesn't want. So overall those are really the only two things that we know is in the bill. I think it strengthens medicare for the seniors. Our debt goes to just shy of 20 trillion. We need to have a debt relief concert....get all those wacky hollywood types and get on TV and beg Americans for money while giving a billion a piece. Supposedly the top 100 riches people in America could easily pay off our debt. That is amazing.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Unless suddenly moved with irresistible throes of patriotism I’m not sure those rich folks would. It would take being inspired by something larger. Maybe Donald Trump is an early example, but he seems to be at most talking about sacrificing 4 to 8 years of his time.

Still, more may be possible than we think. A lot of America’s problems are things that stymie production, over-regulation, chasing after molehills of control that only choke us. The overspending might not even be the worst aspect.