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Carson says he’ll abolish Medicare
Allen West ^ | 10/23/2015 | Michele Hickford

Posted on 10/23/2015 2:14:22 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Republicans are consistently attacked whenever they mention reforms to entrenched entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare. But presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson is going boldly where no Republican has gone before: declaring he would abolish Medicare completely. As Politico reports, “Carson … would eliminate the program that provides health care to 49 million senior citizens, as well as Medicaid, and replace it with a system of cradle-to-grave savings accounts which would be funded with $2,000 a year in government contributions.

When pressed on his position in May by CNBC’s John Harwood, Carson said Americans would support the elimination of Medicare when presented with the facts of his plan. “When people are able to see how much more freedom they will have, and how much more flexibility they will have, and how much more choice they would have, I think it’s going to be a no-brainer,” he said. Not surprisingly, Politico says “GOP strategists and conservative health care wonks scratching their heads. “This isn’t a borderline issue. The politics of this are horrific,” said Doug Holtz-Eakin, head of the American Action Forum and health care adviser to Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign.”

Do we really care what an advisor on McCain’s failed 2008 campaign says? Maybe the fact that Ben Carson is actually a medical professional means he might have an understanding about how the industry works? And haven’t these establishment types noticed Ben Carson doesn’t really care about politics? Which is why perhaps he’s leading the GOP field in Iowa according to the latest Quinnipiac poll?

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To: HarleyLady27

If he doesn’t move away from this position it will sink him. I’d guess that half of his support is on either social security, medicare, or both.


61 posted on 10/23/2015 2:53:36 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: dp0622

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62 posted on 10/23/2015 2:53:54 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: catnipman

“...and Carson has just made Medicare an issue that ALL Pubs WILL have to address one way or the other.”

Well he was a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT only a year ago. Perhaps he’s a plant to help Hillary, by making ALL REPUBLICANS look like nutcases.

If he’s not, he’s sure doing a good job at it anyway.


63 posted on 10/23/2015 2:55:01 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL
Saying that you’ll simply give every senior a voucher for $2,000 to run out and buy insurance

Yep.... he could start by giving back all the money I've paid in for the past 40 years, lump sum, tax free, in inflation adjusted dollars. Then I'll go buy insurance if I want it.

64 posted on 10/23/2015 2:55:59 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: entropy12

Or we can simply die and solve their problem. It’s going to happen anyway, so why not a little sooner?


65 posted on 10/23/2015 2:56:21 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: entropy12

NT


66 posted on 10/23/2015 2:56:33 PM PDT by entropy12 (If you do not DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS, it is Amnesty! Only Trump dares utter the words "DEPORT ILLEGALS")
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To: Hugin

Amen!


67 posted on 10/23/2015 2:56:52 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: right way right
Good problem solving is identifying the problem before solving the problem. The problem is that medical care is too expensive. Medicare, Medicaid, and now ObamaCare contribute to that because there's no necessity to find cheaper solutions, and there's no reward for people to do so because "it's covered".

Would that $2,000 a year be put aside for medical care when one turns 65? Because if they contribute for 45 years, that's only $90,000 for insurance when one is retired. Don't know how that could work, since some people would need next to none of it while some others would go through it in a few years. What happens when it runs out? Do they let people die?

Like a lot of what Dr. Carson says, I'm not sure the details work out real well. A better answer would be a plan which has people seeking inexpensive alternatives to standard medical care.

68 posted on 10/23/2015 3:00:06 PM PDT by grania
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To: NorthMountain
MUCH MORE likely to get my vote if he keeps on talking about dismantling the welfare state. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, SSDI, TANF, WIC, SNAP, etc. ALL must be eliminated.

He may get your vote for talking like that. But not a whole lot of others.

69 posted on 10/23/2015 3:00:19 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: BobL

I thought he became an Independent 15-20 years ago and hadn’t been a Democrat since the ‘80’s (or earlier) ??


70 posted on 10/23/2015 3:01:54 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: Gen.Blather

Wow.


71 posted on 10/23/2015 3:02:38 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: DoodleDawg

I was interested until he spoke in Ferguson. I knew right then, he would not get my vote. This is just icing on the cake that I won’t be eating.


72 posted on 10/23/2015 3:04:02 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (All the special snowflakes still make an ordinary snowball.)
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To: Abby4116

“But you do know that they are not paid the “billed amount” by the third party just like you did not pay the “billed amount”.”

Several years ago, when I was unemployed, I bought catastrophic care insurance. (That type of policy is illegal under Obamacare. But the Bronze plan that would have cost me $8,000 per year with no drug benefit and $10,000 required out of pocket was essentially the same as my old $1,200 total cost catastrophic care policy.) Amazingly, I actually used the catastrophic care policy. I spent 20 minutes in the operating room and never got checked into the hospital. The bill was $16,000; for a hernia repair. But since I had insurance they got an immediate $4,000 “curtesy reduction” I would not have qualified for as a self-pay. The company negotiated it down to $8,000 of which I paid $2,500. That amount, $2,500 was what I thought the whole thing should have cost. But then, we pay for all the illegal aliens who don’t even have to give their name. They would have turned it over to a collections agent if I hadn’t had insurance.


73 posted on 10/23/2015 3:05:12 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: MinuteGal

Go Trump!!!


74 posted on 10/23/2015 3:06:06 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Ummm. What about people already on it and retired?


75 posted on 10/23/2015 3:07:51 PM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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To: MinuteGal

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76 posted on 10/23/2015 3:08:24 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE MAKE YOUR DONATION NOW - GO MONTHLY IF YOU POSSIBLY & RELIABLY CAN!)
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To: kjam22
Well one thing is for sure....thank you Trump for opening up the p.c.b.s. meter....without doing this, we wouldn't have known about what half of these candidates believe...

Carson needs to sink....remember when Paul Ryan said that as Romney's V.P. that didn't go well at all and there are other things about Carson I don't like:

Discussing how Germany and World History would have been altered if the Jews were armed in the 30’s in Germany...

Closing down the VA...

He was also a liberal, just like Reagan and Trump, but doesn't want anyone to know about it...

Spending money like a drunken sailor...

Not wanting to go into Iraq and Afghanistan but it's ok to take on ISIS...

He is a pacifist...

Wants Farrakhan in charge of Public Policy in Chicago...

Thinks it's immoral to deport illegal immigrants, and wants them to have amnesty...

Says he has a lot in common with Al Sharpton...

Didn't do abortions, but knew doctors that he sent people to have them done...

These are just a few of the things I don't like about him...

77 posted on 10/23/2015 3:09:05 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

So, will he wave a magic wand or sprinkle pixie dust to pay for that?
78 posted on 10/23/2015 3:12:05 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
"I believe we owe Trump a debt of gratitude for paving the way for others to speak the unspeakable or so deemed so by the orthodox apparatchiks...",

Yes B.F.A.C., we do, my apologies for not adding his name in with the Dr.!

79 posted on 10/23/2015 3:12:14 PM PDT by taildragger (It's Cruz & Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: stormer
Excellent!

That’s like expecting a mechanic to run a car company.

80 posted on 10/23/2015 3:12:23 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Pass the popcorn, set back/and watch Russia destroy Isis in Syria and Iran idoing the same in Iraq.)
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