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Africa's poor grow by 100 million since 1990
Reuters ^ | 16 October 2015

Posted on 10/17/2015 1:28:16 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Lucy Hamilton

Something really bizarre is going on, that’s for sure. When I see Angela Merkle forcing the German people to take in hundred of thousands of Middle Easterners and Africans, there has to be some pathological thinking going on in the leaders’ minds. It is not only in Germany, it is going on in France, England and Sweden among other countries. Any citizen who complains is called a racist.

Try this excellent website:
www.gatesofvienna.net


41 posted on 10/17/2015 2:50:05 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Well yes and it’s entirely obvious, it’s not even subtle.

I regularly read the Gates of Vienna, it’s an excellent source.


42 posted on 10/17/2015 2:52:05 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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"But Islam Is the Religion of Piece!
Oh, and Death to America!"


43 posted on 10/17/2015 2:52:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: cradle of freedom

Don’t forget it’s happening in America also. Idaho being told x amount of Africans being dumped there, look at Minnesota, the Governor calling Minnesotans who don’t want x amount of Somali’s dumped there “racist and bigoted and not real Minnesotans” and if they don’t like it then move to another state etc.

It’s obviously White Genocide across the Western world, forced upon us by traitors.


44 posted on 10/17/2015 2:56:04 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: SamAdams76

We are the world. We are the children....

Celebrities so need to feel good about themselves and be seen doing it.


45 posted on 10/17/2015 2:59:14 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: butlerweave

Meanwhile here in Britain alone, 250,000 abortions occur each year, every year.

I don’t know what the total is across Europe.


46 posted on 10/17/2015 3:01:10 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: cradle of freedom

Looking at that album photo from 1985...Kenny Rogers hasn’t aged a day in 30 years!


47 posted on 10/17/2015 3:06:05 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things done with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Yes because historically they’re STUPID that’s why.


Bull and I don’t appreciate your sentiments. I have several friends who have adopted children from Africa. They are bright and beautiful kids who will be successful Americans. It’s the environment that dictates their future and it’s not their fault they are born into it. It’s only their fault if they don’t try to change it, but that requires something radical.

Instead (as others have pointed out) we apply our liberal view of welfare to the problem sustaining the cycle just like our own welfare system sustains the failure of culture in our own inner-cities.

The intellectually lazy way to view the problem is to simply view millions of people as sub-human when reality dictates that statistically you would be no different had you been born there.

Life is much like a lottery - you won at birth and they lost. There are no easy answers, but instead of congratulating yourself for the luck and foresight of your predecessors you might try a little compassion for those who are truly less fortunate.


48 posted on 10/17/2015 3:07:22 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: cradle of freedom
Ping to myself to I can give 'cradle of freedom' the deserved credit for linking me to that site if in the future it proves noteworthy.

Cheers, TMMS

49 posted on 10/17/2015 3:08:16 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Democrats Lie Cheat Steal Destroy. Period. They are a filthy stain on Life and Freedom)
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To: cradle of freedom
Ping to myself to I can give 'cradle of freedom' the deserved credit for linking me to that site if in the future it proves noteworthy.

Cheers, TMMS

50 posted on 10/17/2015 3:08:40 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Democrats Lie Cheat Steal Destroy. Period. They are a filthy stain on Life and Freedom)
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To: Lorianne

Now I feel bad about the money this old dying lady in Nigeria is going to send me..


51 posted on 10/17/2015 3:19:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: volunbeer

“The intellectually lazy way to view the problem is to simply view millions of people as sub-human when reality dictates that statistically you would be no different had you been born there.”

I have a degree from Balliol College, Oxford University and eight generations of my family have graduated from Oxford University.

So tell me, how many African imports have University degrees? How many millions of the African imports have not only passed University entrance exams but have then graduated with a full degree?

Why are so many African imports on welfare and food stamps? Why are so many black Americans on welfare and food stamps? Why are so many black British on welfare and food stamps?

Why are more black people in our respective prisons than white people?

The list goes on.


52 posted on 10/17/2015 3:27:25 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

It’s culture - not genetics. Changing a culture is very difficult, but defining the worth of the individual based on their phenotype, genotype, or “where they are from” is the antithesis of conservatism which values the individual.

It takes generations to change a culture, but the individual potential in each child is undeniable. I see evidence of that daily with my youngest (who is adopted and statistically -genetic history - should not measure up to my other two).

I don’t know if theirs (or my youngest) will go to an Ivy League school or not, but that is not the measurement of success in life for me - being productive and contributing to the world around them in a positive way is my goal for them. I have a hard time being impartial with my little one because she is the apple of my eye, but she is every bit as sharp as my other two kids who come from stock you might be proud of given the academic success of my family. She proves my theory every day (as do our friends children) and our lives are better and richer for the experience.

Some look at Africa and express disgust at the people. I look at Africa and I am disgusted at the culture that fails on so many levels, but I am truly heartbroken over the children. I truly wish we could save them all because their success would not deprive you or me of anything. Much like our own inner-city problems, we can’t seem to break the cycle from the outside, but I know plenty of successful people who grew up in that environment that are great people. The common denominator for them was a good upbringing that pushed/nurtured them outside the cycle.


53 posted on 10/17/2015 3:58:48 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: volunbeer

We have to agree to disagree.

Certainly some of what you commented sounds, well like Liberal-Speak. Naturally I can’t agree.


54 posted on 10/17/2015 4:14:23 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: volunbeer

I should add, it is genetics.

It also applies to white people. If your parents are stupid, if you’re from a stupid family, chances are you’ll be stupid, it’s in your DNA.

As is criminality and violence in general, if your family tree shows there’s a criminal and violent element, you have a high risk of having those traits.


55 posted on 10/17/2015 4:33:22 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: DemforBush

Thanks for that info. I was unaware of Ethiopia’s progress.


56 posted on 10/17/2015 4:40:32 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Statistics represent the percentages, but people defy statistics all the time. My daughter will, our friends children will, and I know plenty of other folks who have defied the percentages because they are in a good environment.

You suggest that I sound like a liberal for believing in the potential of an individual even as you parrot the thoughts of Margaret Sanger? I can agree to disagree and I firmly believe environment is far more important than genetics and I can prove it scientifically. Take the same packet of seeds and plant some in good soil and poor soil and see what happens. Vary it up - water some - don’t water others - give some good light - give some poor light. Proof using the scientific method.

Following the logic path you started earlier in this thread - my daughter and our friends children (Ethiopian) should simply be eradicated because “statistics” say they are genetically inferior?


57 posted on 10/17/2015 4:48:47 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: volunbeer

If both parental DNA contribute numbers ( which are low in value) or both parental DNA contribute multipliers in the INT chromosome then the offspring will be low on intelligence.

This applies regardless to the race, they could be white or black, the result is the same.

I’m not sure one can compare a packet of seeds to human beings.

The make-up of a human entity is exceptionally more complex and layered than a seed.

This would be like comparing a person to something akin to a potato or a daffodil.

Decades of scientific research in Europe, America, Australia, New Zealand alone have all produced the same results. That one inherits everything from ones DNA, it’s who we are. It determines everything about us, including ones intellectual capabilities.

If one looks at, say in Britain our Council Estates with predominantly white people living there. What one finds is a very very high percentage of households where the males and often the females have a criminal record and the children are already known to the police.

The children, the teenage ones, also have a very very low rate of any sort of higher education, principally because their record has been incredibly poor at school.

Take that back and one finds their parents also had a poor school record. So it’s passed down through the DNA.

Take it further back and one would find the grandparents either in a manual labouring job or no job, again because of poor school record.

With record then to American black communities. Why can’t they get themselves out of this Ghetto-type situation? They don’t have the gumption that’s why.

They want people like you and me to do it for them, to help them, because they haven’t the gumption to help themselves.

America has the ultimate system to do this for them, Affirmative Action.

Affirmative Action proves they are totally unable to help themselves. That simply because they’re black they get a hand-up, NOT on MERIT like non-blacks, but because they’re black in itself.

Now that’s racist.


58 posted on 10/17/2015 5:18:57 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: Lorianne

Send them all to Germany and Sweden

What’s to stop them?

It’s open door time!


59 posted on 10/17/2015 5:25:50 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

I am against affirmative action and agree that it meets the true definition of racism because it is based on color.

However, eugenics, which you clearly believe in, is the same coin as affirmative action. It also argues for the erasure of people based on traits that can include skin color. That can certainly be viewed as racism even though most true eugenicists approach the problem from a flawed logic tree.

Humans share about 90% of our DNA with primates so simply change my seed analogy to a a set of primate twins. Raise one with little stimulation and no nurturing and compare it’s twin that is raised in a nurturing environment with lots of stimulation. I would argue that you would get the same result as my prior analogy of plant seeds. The truth of planted seeds is scientifically sound and certainly applicable to people.

The environment/genetics argument is an age old argument and I believe science has shown and demonstrated that environment can overcome the statistical game of genetics. We are proving it just as our friends and family are proving it with their adopted children. Genetics certainly influence who we are, but they don’t define who we become.

Take a young child out of a statistically doomed situation and place them in a far better situation and he/she will usually defy their genetic history. This is simple science and even those who believe genetics is far more important than environmental influences are forced to admit the proof.

Genetics does not guarantee anything nor does environment, and at some point self-determination takes over. I have seen this personally over and over. We adopted, my sister adopted two from overseas, our best friends adopted two from Ethiopia, we were a foster family and lots of our friends are. A few years ago a young lady adopted as a baby from the Eastern Bloc was valedictorian at a private school here in my community - mostly very affluent students. What I personally see is not possible based on your perspective and that is not even arguing based on my faith and belief in a creator.

Make a different environment for those children, just like the primates in the analogy, and the supremacy of genetics is destroyed. This is true no matter where you are. The problem is changing the culture that forms the environment that shapes their future far beyond their ethnicity. On a macro-level look at the two Germany’s during the cold war and that was only a couple of generations - same genes far different result.

Genetics certainly has an influence, but I believe (scientifically) that environment is far more important than genetics.


60 posted on 10/17/2015 6:13:17 PM PDT by volunbeer
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