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WaPo/ABC poll: Hillary still unfavorable, Sanders not gaining much either [Waiting for Joe]
Hotair ^ | 10/13/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 10/13/2015 7:11:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Perhaps after a year-long plunge in both popularity and a sense of inevitability, Hillary Clinton was due for a break. According to the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll, her plunge in at least the former appears to have plateaued, at least for the moment. Instead of the 45/53 of late August, she has improved to 47/49 — a change within the margin of error, but perhaps a refreshing break for Team Hillary nonetheless:

New polling data from The Washington Post and ABC News, though, paints a different picture. Since August, Clinton’s approval rating is . . . up slightly, to 47 percent from 45 percent. Her net favorability — the percentage of people who view her positively minus those who view her negatively — is up six points.

Yes, well, don’t read too much into it. The WaPo/ABC series has traditionally been friendly to Hillary; it inexplicably found her favorability rating at 52/45 in July, when every other polling series had red lights flashing. Besides, this data comes from the larger sample of random adults. Among registered voters, there’s hardly been a change; Hillary went from 43/56 in August to 45/52 now — an improvement, but within the MOE and hardly substantial.

The issue may be more that she’s losing ground among Democrats in comparison to her competitors:

Clinton’s net favorability didn’t change among Democrats, we’ll note, while both Bernie Sanders and non-candidate-and-maybe-never-candidate Joe Biden saw improvements with Democrats. Clinton gained with independents — and Republicans, where she essentially had nowhere to go but up. Biden saw the biggest gain in net favorability with Republicans, though, gaining 12 points.

Don’t read much into these changes, either. Biden went from 26/69 to 30/60 among Republicans, probably due more to hopefulness that Biden would jump into the race and challenge Hillary. The numbers for all three Democrats have not changed dramatically in the last six weeks in this poll series, with one exception. Both Hillary and Biden have improved recently among women, 11 and 12 points in the gap respectively, while Sanders has remained essentially static.

This is still Hillary’s problem:

abc-fav-chart

Random adults, which should be the most favorable sample for Hillary Clinton, have almost all reached some sort of conclusion about her. Among registered voters, only 3% don’t have an opinion about her, as opposed to 10% for Biden and 26% for Sanders. Hillary has no upside; she holds no surprises for voters, and that will make it difficult to “reboot” her as a candidate. The traditional way to deal with this situation is to go heavily negative on the competition, but in this cycle that’s tremendously risky, as voters desperately want a change from politics as usual.

Either Hillary has to find a way to suddenly become authentic and personable, or Democrats are going to have a very bad electoral cycle.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; hillary; joebiden; poll

1 posted on 10/13/2015 7:11:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The witch is running against the dregs of the Rat party and still losing ground. What should that tell you?


2 posted on 10/13/2015 7:16:05 AM PDT by anoldafvet (they're not immigrants, they're criminal aliens)
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To: anoldafvet

RE: What should that tell you?

It tells me that there is a clamor from the Dems to get a less target-friendly candidate.

It also tells me that Joe Biden will probably step in to rescue the Dems ( with pressure from Obama, who hates Hillary’s guts ).

That he had a meeting with Elizabeth Warren tells me that she will be his running mate should he get the nomination.


3 posted on 10/13/2015 7:19:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This Democrat Party POTUS candidate debate tonight is going to be a major bust!!! It will b a soft-ball love fest between CNN & Hillary Clinton. The viewer levels will be horrible....if not worse!!! I have hesitated to bad mouth Biden....hoping he would jump in....and really sink this incompetent group of morons. i hope Joe Biden does jump in......wait until you folks get to see how quickly Joe Biden sinks from being the love child oif the week, to political dunce of the year!!!

Obama thought he was effectively destroying the country he hates so much....but....the only Obama is destroying is his own “Obamabot” Democrat low life vermin!!! Love it!!! Go.....Donald Trump!!!


4 posted on 10/13/2015 7:21:46 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The debate tonight could prove interesting. I think Hillary and Bernie will take it easy on one another. However, the remaining candidates - Webb, O’Malley, and Chafee - desperately need to do something to gain some traction in the race and draw media attention to their candidacy. That being the case, they just might go after Hillary on the email scandal, her miserable record as Secretary of State, and maybe even Benghazi. If they do, it will be fun to watch Hillary trying her best not to have a meltdown.


5 posted on 10/13/2015 7:26:47 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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Ooops!!! Forgot my final pitch!!! I will not be watching the Democrat debate this evening and I request, suggest and implore you all to do exactly the same thing. Heed & Read as Doanld Trump “Twiitters” away....through the entire debate. Shucks....Trump will probably get more folks tuned in to “Twitter” then the Democrat vermin will get to watch their “CNN” debate, Hillary, lovefest and farce!!! Have fun & Go Donald Trump!!!


6 posted on 10/13/2015 7:26:56 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

At this point, Hillary has only one option left -

come out and declare her homosexuality, and campaign on the theme of “the first lesbian candidate for President”.

What’s she got to lose? She’s dying now.

Yup, that would be a winning strategy for her!


7 posted on 10/13/2015 7:28:39 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Please, Let it be Trump vs Hillary. I have no fear about the outcome.


8 posted on 10/13/2015 7:35:58 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: SeekAndFind
Despite Biden's penchant for malapropisms, many say he's actually a pretty competent politician. And that counts a LOT among voters. He reminds me a lot of the late Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino, famous for many malapropisms but was well-liked by many.
9 posted on 10/13/2015 7:57:26 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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