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THE PROBLEM ISN'T GUNS OR WHITE MEN
Ann Coulter Dot Com ^ | 7 Oct 2015 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 10/07/2015 10:46:57 PM PDT by Rummyfan

The media act as if they're performing a public service by refusing to release details about the perpetrator of the recent mass shooting at a community college in Oregon. But we were given plenty of information about Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, James Holmes and Jared Loughner.

Now, quick: Name the mass shooters at the Chattanooga military recruitment center; the Washington Navy Yard; the high school in Washington state; Fort Hood (the second time) and the Christian college in California. All those shootings also occurred during the last three years.

The answers are: Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, Kuwaiti; Aaron Alexis, black, possibly Barbadian-American; Jaylen Ray Fryberg, Indian; Ivan Antonio Lopez, Hispanic; and One L. Goh, Korean immigrant. (While I'm here: Why are we bringing in immigrants who are mentally unstable?)

There's a rigid formula in media accounts of mass shootings: If possible, blame it on angry white men; when that won't work, blame it on guns.

The perpetrator of the latest massacre, Chris Harper-Mercer, was a half-black immigrant, so the media are refusing to get too specific about him. They don't want to reward the fiend with publicity!

But as people hear details the media are not anxious to provide, they realize that, once again: It's a crazy person. How long is this going to go on?

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1 posted on 10/07/2015 10:46:57 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

And it ain’t guns with black men...


2 posted on 10/07/2015 10:50:15 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Rummyfan
Trump has also said we don't have a gun problem we have a lack of adequate mental health facilities to care for and help those with serious mental illness.
3 posted on 10/07/2015 11:07:30 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I have to disagree with Trump for once.

We’ve had guns and mentally unstable people in this country for over 200 years. Only in the past 50 years or so have these mass or “spree” shootings been common.

I think it’s more a morals problem. Put mentally unstable together with no morals then you’re getting somewhere. Mentally unstable has been with us since people believed the world was flat. Only recently has it become demonstrably associated with mass shootings. Mental instability probably plays a part, but before the country went morally bankrupt this type of event was very uncommon.


4 posted on 10/07/2015 11:21:42 PM PDT by Paleo Pete (I'm with the bomb squad. If you see me running, CATCH UP!)
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To: Paleo Pete
Yes, but 50 years ago the Supreme Court said that we could no longer involuntarily institutionalize the mentally ill without first getting a court order. They said that mental illness was not a crime and made it difficult to remove mentally insane Psychopaths from the streets. They declared that vagrancy and hobo laws where illegal and people had the right to pan handle and live on the street.

We closed all the state mental facilities that at one time housed the schizophrenics and mentally divergent who are often a danger to themselves and others.

Now instead of family members and doctors deciding if a person should be institutionalized, lawyers dressed in black robes make that decision. Like most thing lawyers get involved with, the mental health system is now all fu@ked up.

5 posted on 10/07/2015 11:53:08 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Paleo Pete

Actually about 40 years ago we started closing mental institutions and putting the dangerously mentally ill out in the community.

Morals probably play a role as well, but the problem is mainly that we allow the known dangerous lunatics to roam the streets.


6 posted on 10/07/2015 11:56:41 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Judges (with input from family members and physicians) should make the decision whether to institutionize people, but they should be doing it more frequently.


7 posted on 10/07/2015 11:59:04 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: Rummyfan

Mass shootings in those unprotected, government-sponsored, “gun free” slaughter zones allow for amplification/implementation of the agenda. The federales are here to help us dontcha know...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OcM23Hbs5U

…witness Barry’s fundamentally transforming epic in Rosenberg coming up.


8 posted on 10/08/2015 12:01:48 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Paleo Pete
I think it’s more a morals problem.

First, school shootings (along with unarmed Army base, no gun zone malls etc.) mean it's a sitting duck problem. These mass shootings JUST DON'T HAPPEN in citizen-armed places.

The real problem is psychotropic medicated nutballs.


9 posted on 10/08/2015 12:03:41 AM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Trump has also said we don't have a gun problem we have a lack of adequate mental health facilities to care for and help those with serious mental illness.

So true...been talked about at least a thousand times but nothing is ever proposed, much less done about it.

The plain facts are that we have always had this issue. Back in the early 60s when I was growing up, we used to hospitalize them...(with hospital being a far too generous term) but I think it was closer to warehousing them. I saw the inside of some of these facilities...gave me nightmares for months.

This is why, due to public outcry over these old crappy facilities, that we released them onto the streets.

The original fix was wrong, the reaction to the failure was wrong, and now we are were we are.

10 posted on 10/08/2015 12:24:27 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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I would concur to a degree, but SSRI’s do help a lot of people, however it’s been only recently that it became well known that they can also cause violent responses in some young people. They don’t really know why. They barely understand how they work when they do work..


11 posted on 10/08/2015 12:28:04 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
...however it’s been only recently that it became well known that they can also cause violent responses in some young people.

I suspect that billions of dollars of profit may have something to do with that.


12 posted on 10/08/2015 12:46:22 AM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Rummyfan

Be careful what you wish for, Ann, or you could be incarcerated for your “mental instability” based on the liberal mindset.


13 posted on 10/08/2015 1:36:31 AM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
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To: Rummyfan
Some psychiatric professional has to medically certify that a mentally ill person is not a thereat to himself or others before he can be released.

My suggestion: Make the therapist who certifies that a mentally ill person is fit for release bear the burden of legal accountability if the ill person goes off the rails.

Then the therapeutic community will not be so cavalier about inflicting the damage from the mentally ill onto the society.

14 posted on 10/08/2015 2:44:36 AM PDT by Rapscallion ("I never had sex with that server. Never.")
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“...about 40 years ago we started closing mental institutions..”
When a bureaucracy(fed, state or local) is told must cut its budget, as Reagan did, the first things cut are the essentials that will damage the public.. budgets of schools, police departments, etc. This is punishment for daring to trim the sacred cows. The lard is cocooned and protected.


15 posted on 10/08/2015 3:11:09 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Paleo Pete

You said “I think it’s more a morals problem.”

You are absolutely correct! I’ve been preaching that for many years.

Since the mid-60’s when women burned their bras, walked out of the house, threw off their chains of motherhood and abandoned their children to day care centers and sought their own fortunes in employment and business, the cycle began the downhill run until we find ourselves where we are today.

Their theme song was “We are women, hear us roar” was the marching song to the total destruction of the good world we once knew where children were raised with morals, obedience to laws and regulations, conformed to the norms of society, and were actually punished for violation of laws and rules.

The younger on this forum cannot even imagine the days where people obeyed the law, watched each other’s houses and property, and respected the police. They can’t imagine leaving the door to your house unlocked so the milk man could come in a put milk into your refrigerator or the laundry to bring you clothes in and put them in your living room.

MORALS! Something that has been removed from our society and will probably never be replaced in this “brave new world” which I have called for years “the blameless society.”


16 posted on 10/08/2015 4:17:15 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Rummyfan

Finally, a discussion about mental health.


17 posted on 10/08/2015 4:32:27 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: Paleo Pete

“morals problem”

Yes, but go further - what is the root cause of that? If you say something like, destruction of the family, lack of fathers, allowing illegal immigration... Ok, but what is the root cause of those?

Answer: the loss of Christianity, and the loss of the fear of God, in the lives of most Anericans


18 posted on 10/08/2015 4:36:55 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Rummyfan

How can these heartless Democrats look the parents of dead children in the eye and defend the right of the mentally deranged to store their feces in a shoebox, menace library patrons — and, every now and then, commit mass murder?

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It’s easy peasy when you’ve already jumped the ‘heartless shark’ and think murdering babies is a personal right every woman should have and while butchering those babies for money is a wee tad gross, it does give PP’s bottom line a boost.


19 posted on 10/08/2015 4:38:39 AM PDT by Qiviut (Stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the cross; lift high his royal banner, it must not loss)
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To: CPT Clay

You know, the issue is not mental health.

Warning mental health is a subjective issue and can be and has been used by the left to kill and imprison.

Very few mentally ill are violent.

The real issue is evil.

Evil propagated by a culture without boundaries. A culture that has not taught a preponderance of its underclass to be good.


20 posted on 10/08/2015 4:42:14 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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