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Shoot First; Ask Questions Later
Townhall.com ^ | October 6, 2015 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 10/06/2015 8:27:25 AM PDT by Kaslin

After America learned of the latest mass shooting at an Oregon community college, President Barack Obama delivered remarks in which he lamented the loss of good, innocent people and then added: "Somehow this has become routine. ... We've become numb to this." By the next day, Obama had a remedy: "Be a single-issue voter."

If you want to stop mass shootings, Obama argued, don't vote for candidates who oppose federal background checks and "gun safety laws."

Nine adults who should be alive today are not, while the 26-year-old shooter got what he wanted -- to leave this earth in what he perceived as a blaze of glory. It is revolting to think how easy it is for some unhappy loser to leave a swath of destruction because he cannot make a life for himself in this world. The problem with guns is simple: Any idiot can kill others with them.

Obama and other Democrats such as Sen. Dianne Feinstein would have you believe that they have an easy answer to this problem. Obama talked up proposed background checks as a remedy when he should have known the checks would have made no difference; the Oregon shooter had no criminal record, no restraining order against him, no involuntary commitment to a mental institution. The New York Times reported that the shooter brought five handguns and a rifle with him to Umpqua Community College -- but left seven firearms at home. A Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokeswoman said the shooter and his family had 14 firearms in total -- all purchased legally from a federally licensed firearms dealer.

Feinstein sent out a statement: "After each shooting, I've been hopeful that Congress would act to close the gun show loophole, mandate universal background checks and remove high-capacity magazines and military-style assault weapons from our streets."

Last week, National Review's Charles C.W. Cooke asked the hosts and other guests on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" which specific proposals they believe could prevent another Roseburg. "This is not a competition to see who is the most vexed," Cooke maintained, adding it is -- or at least it is supposed to be -- a public policy debate. Cooke was wrong; it is a contest about which side looks angrier.

Co-host Mika Brzezinski jumped all over Cooke for not wanting to do more. Mark Halperin, co-managing editor of Bloomberg Politics, said, "We need passion to solve this, not talk about complexity and talk about how the other side's ideas aren't any good." They offered no concrete ideas.

In the gun debate, you often see people who would never buy a gun saying they support reasonable rules such as background checks, when what they really want to do is stop others from owning guns. The shooter's father on CNN said he wants Congress to pass "gun control" laws. He also said, "I'm a great believer: You don't buy guns. Don't buy guns." That's the sort of talk that prompts gun enthusiasts to buy more guns before Washington bans them. Ditto the Feinstein statement.

So the question I would ask is: Is the idea to pass a law that makes supporters feel good, or is it to prevent violence against innocents? Or is it about turning people into single-issue voters?


TOPICS: Editorial; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; massshootings; resident0bama
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1 posted on 10/06/2015 8:27:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

America is numb to an unvetted foreign, absolutely
pro-terrorist pro-Islam, Moslem
made pRes_ _ent; and a MSM without a single (1)
journalist covering it.


2 posted on 10/06/2015 8:32:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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It sure seems that whenever Bowbama is in trouble, this time with the Russians, something like this happens. Haven’t taken the time to look back at the previous instances, but it sure seems odd. Just sayin’...


3 posted on 10/06/2015 8:33:10 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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Obama had a remedy: “Be a single-issue voter.” If you want to stop mass shootings,

Yes. I am a ‘single issue voter ‘ for the most part. I vote for the most pro 2nd amendment candidate (which has a 99% chance of being the most overall conservative). If every honest good citizen was carrying...most mass murders would be stopped before they could happen.

4 posted on 10/06/2015 8:33:50 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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I agree, be a single issue voter. Why? Because most Americans do not agree with Obama or his ilk on this single issue. If they did, gun sales would not being going through the roof. Hell, my local store has a picture of Obama up and under it is stated, “salesman of the year.”


5 posted on 10/06/2015 8:35:16 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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"Feinstein sent out a statement: "After each shooting, I've been hopeful that Congress would act to close the gun show loophole"

There's no such thing as a gun show loophole. It doesn't exist. The same laws apply at gun shows as anywhere else.

6 posted on 10/06/2015 8:37:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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Law enforcement (our government) can’t CONTROL illegal gun activity NOW.

Making legal ownership illegal isn’t gonna change one thing.


7 posted on 10/06/2015 8:38:14 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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I wouldn’t let that arrogant pos tell me anyway who not to vote for and I have never voted for a rat and never will


8 posted on 10/06/2015 8:42:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

How much of this is him not wanting to get shot in his retirement by the tens of millions who will want to do so?


9 posted on 10/06/2015 8:42:37 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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If Sandy Hook teachers could have a do-over, I’ll bet they’d rather have a gun. Bleeding heart libs who wasn’t there, well, that’s another story.


10 posted on 10/06/2015 8:44:22 AM PDT by umgud
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“Making legal ownership illegal isn’t gonna change one thing.”

Oh I beg to differ. It’ll ensure one thing, It’ll ensure you aren’t armed and the illegally armed criminal will know it. And that is EXACTLY what gun free zones cause.


11 posted on 10/06/2015 8:45:20 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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If every honest good citizen was carrying...most mass murders would be stopped before they could happen.

AND our government will be kept in check

Hey, I think I am on to something!?!

The WHOLE reason there is a 2nd amendment is to protect us for the likes of Obama.

FUBO FUMO


12 posted on 10/06/2015 8:46:19 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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I am not a “single-issue” voter, but I do have “deal breaker” issues: Amnesty, Gun Control, and Property Rights. If a candidate supports Amnesty or Gun Control, or wants to dilute Property Rights, I won’t vote for him.


13 posted on 10/06/2015 8:49:33 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: circlecity

“There’s no such thing as a gun show loophole. It doesn’t exist. The same laws apply at gun shows as anywhere else.”

Ditto for the “internet loophole.” In both cases, you would have to violate existing federal and state laws if you conducted a transfer outside of those laws.


14 posted on 10/06/2015 8:50:25 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kaslin

I own many guns, all legal. Who opposes background checks and gun safety? What a ridiculous statement by our so-called president.


15 posted on 10/06/2015 8:56:20 AM PDT by smalltowngirl
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To: Diogenesis

Total control of MSM was completed 40 years ago.....the internet was the “thing” which disturbed the elite’s control over their useful idiots.

But it looks as if the Leftists will soon censor the internet-—as they control all other voices.

The first thing all Leftists do is control all Words and Ideas that you and your children (schools were taken over 50 years ago) may have.

He who controls Words and Language can control all concepts of the masses (Wittgenstein).


16 posted on 10/06/2015 8:56:48 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: umgud
If Sandy Hook teachers could have a do-over, I’ll bet they’d rather have a gun.

A cop friend of mine helped out at the school for a couple of months after the incident. (Other departments sent volunteers to give local cops a break.) He said that's exactly what the teachers told him.

17 posted on 10/06/2015 9:05:23 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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Who opposes background checks . . ?

I actually distrust background checks. Maybe you know: Have they reduced crime in some way? I have to think that's been measured by John Lott or someone.

18 posted on 10/06/2015 9:08:33 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Kaslin
What they mean (no joke) by the "Gun Show Loophole" is that there are any gun shows at all.
19 posted on 10/06/2015 9:19:21 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Iv’e become numb to you...President Numbnuts!


20 posted on 10/06/2015 9:25:43 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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